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    perhaps im under feeding :(

    so i saw another ball python that i assumed was quite older then mine to find out he was younger. so i started thinking my snakes under fed. ADVICE IS NEEDED

    Hes 6 years old and ive owned him since he was 6 months. currently hes just shy of 4 feet. i feed him 1 medium rat every 2 weeks. and im seriously thinking this isnt enough. he never seems tempermental, i hold him daily, and he drinks lots of water. but when he sees food he wastes but a second to scarf it down.

    how much do you all recommend him eating and if adjustmens are needed how should i go about in a safe way.

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    Re: perhaps im under feeding :(

    Hiya,

    Welcome to the forums, first

    It would be helpful if you could give us his weight, in grams - preferably

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    Re: perhaps im under feeding :(

    Ever had a fecal done to rule out parasites?

    If THAT feeding regimen works, stick to it.

    When you say Medium rat, what does the rat weigh in grams?

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    Re: perhaps im under feeding :(

    i dont have a scale to measure in grams. i get my mice from petco and always have. if that helps at all????

    its not so much im worried about my snakes health he really seems fine, full of energy and very nice. i just want to make sure im not under feeding him.

    as far as parasites ive never had him checked for it because well....hes never done anything to give me a reason to. everytime i put new bedding in i spray the beeding and him with NIX lice medicine just as a precaution, but thats not to say hes parasite free by any means

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    Re: perhaps im under feeding :(

    Can you please clarify?

    You said in your first post "medium rats" and in your second you get "mice from petco"

    big difference

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    Re: perhaps im under feeding :(

    I would discontinue using the NIX as a precaution. No need to expose your snake to the poison when he doesn't even have mites. Lots of people will treat a new addition while they have it in QT to make sure they don't introduce mites to their collection, but that is different than doing it repeatedly.

    If you do ever have a case of mites and need to deal with it, some people do use NIX successfully without problems, however as far as I am aware, no scientific testing has been done to see if it is safe for reptiles or if there may be long term negative effects. Provent-a-mite (PAM) is a product that was designed and tested specifically for use on reptiles.

    As far as the food question, we could help you a lot better if we either have a pic of your snake with something in it for size reference (you could even show a pic of him with the size rat you are feeding), or if you can give us an accurate weight.

    A size comparison to one other BP is not enough to assume your BP has been underfed. Females get quite a bit bigger than males usually, so if the other one was female, that could be one explanation for it.
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    Re: perhaps im under feeding :(

    lets just say i have always got my food from petco

    i will take a few pictures tonight of the medium size rat next to the snake.

    and i will discontinue the nix as a precaution. when i had my red tail people on a redtail site told me i should do that with all my snakes if i feed live.

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    Re: perhaps im under feeding :(

    Quote Originally Posted by Snyper02 View Post
    when i had my red tail people on a redtail site told me i should do that with all my snakes if i feed live.
    Rodent mites to not feed on reptiles, so there is no need for the treatment.
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    Re: perhaps im under feeding :(

    Quite true--only reptile mites will feed and breed on reptiles. Mammalian mites will not. Mite products are very toxic, so never expose your animal to any medications or treatments unless absolutely necessary. Never as a preventative.

    As for prey sizes--you refer to your snake as 'he'. Male ball pythons are generally smaller than females as adults. The adult sizes of different individual ball pythons can vary from 3 feet and 1500 grams (or even less) on up to 6 feet, and over 4000 grams for enormous females). Both ends of this range can be healthy animals that are well fed.

    If the rat is as big around as the thickest part of your snake, then it's the right size. Feeding a rat that size every 2 weeks for a non-breeding snake should be absolutely perfect. A ball python that goes off feed for 4 to 6 months over the winter should probably be fed every week while it's eating, but if it eats year-round, every other week is best. Since snakes rarely eat while in shed, just skip those weeks. This should keep its weight up without allowing it to become obese.
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    Re: perhaps im under feeding :(

    Quote Originally Posted by WingedWolfPsion View Post
    Since snakes rarely eat while in shed, just skip those weeks. This should keep its weight up without allowing it to become obese.
    I have never owned a snake that never ate in shed. I realize some don't, in fact many don't(I have been blessed with strong feeding responses in my snakes), but I wouldn't say that snakes as a whole rarely feed in shed.

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