Vote for BP.Net for the 2013 Forum of the Year! Click here for more info.

» Site Navigation

» Home
 > FAQ

» Online Users: 829

1 members and 828 guests
Most users ever online was 47,180, 07-16-2025 at 05:30 PM.

» Today's Birthdays

None

» Stats

Members: 75,915
Threads: 249,118
Posts: 2,572,199
Top Poster: JLC (31,651)
Welcome to our newest member, KBFalconer
Page 1 of 2 12 LastLast
Results 1 to 10 of 20
  1. #1
    BPnet Veteran
    Join Date
    04-11-2009
    Location
    Orlando,Fl
    Posts
    474
    Thanks
    56
    Thanked 92 Times in 84 Posts

    Buying from a convicted smuggler???

    Ok,,,i am amking this its own thread now,but i was cruising google lastnight,and stumbeled on an article discussing an animals smuggling ring arrested in the 90s,,and in it was the names of 2 people,who are today,still active in the reptile industry,one that plead guilty to 2 counts of conspiricy,and the other guy and his wife,fled the country to belize i believe it was,and then had to come back to face thier charges.This is my main question involving the 2nd gentleman,and here is an excert,without the names,from usdoj.gov

    ***** ******* was sentenced in U.S. District Court in Orlando. He pleaded guilty in January, 1999, to seven felony counts of conspiracy, smuggling and violating the Lacey Act, a federal wildlife statute. At the time of his plea, ******* already was on supervised release and had served a prison sentence for smuggling endangered Fiji Island Iguanas into the United States in 1995

    Both of these men are still selling animals and breeding now,and one of them,if not both advertises on kingsnake.com

    my question to pose to everybody is this,no matter what thier BOI says about them,would you knowingly purchase from of these gentleman,,or only if thier BOI says they are great guys now,,or would you let the fact that they was involved with smuggling,keep you from buying from them??

    personally,i wouldnt do business with either,based solely on the fact that they did do this,but is that a double standard,as i am a believe that if they did thier time,then they should get a fresh start???
    1.0 blonde pastel,1.8 normal,1.1 het orange ghost 1.0 het butterscotch 0.1 het green ghost 0.1 het albino 0.1 rtb 0.1 yellow anaconda 1.0 borneo blood 1.0 albino burmese

  2. #2
    BPnet Veteran Patrick Long's Avatar
    Join Date
    02-16-2005
    Location
    Ventura, California, United States
    Posts
    8,209
    Thanks
    564
    Thanked 987 Times in 736 Posts
    Images: 36

    Re: Buying from a convicted smuggler???

    Tom Crutchfield I am assuming?

  3. #3
    BPnet Veteran
    Join Date
    08-18-2008
    Posts
    2,754
    Thanks
    710
    Thanked 737 Times in 457 Posts

    Re: Buying from a convicted smuggler???

    Quote Originally Posted by Patrick Long View Post
    Tom Crutchfield I am assuming?
    That's what I'm thinking too...

  4. #4
    BPnet Veteran frankykeno's Avatar
    Join Date
    04-17-2005
    Location
    Toledo, Ohio
    Posts
    19,814
    Thanks
    92
    Thanked 871 Times in 478 Posts
    Images: 33

    Re: Buying from a convicted smuggler???

    This was an interesting read. Picked it up recently at my local library......

    http://www.reptilechannel.com/reptil...zard-king.aspx
    ~~Joanna~~

  5. #5
    BPnet Veteran TheMolenater2's Avatar
    Join Date
    06-30-2008
    Location
    South Carolina
    Posts
    866
    Thanks
    33
    Thanked 74 Times in 73 Posts
    Images: 12

    Re: Buying from a convicted smuggler???

    Quote Originally Posted by frankykeno View Post
    This was an interesting read. Picked it up recently at my local library......

    http://www.reptilechannel.com/reptil...zard-king.aspx
    Saw an add for this in Reptile magazine. Looks like it really uncovers the world of reptile smuggling well.
    I'm not afraid of snakes, because I got Balls!

  6. #6
    BPnet Veteran PythonWallace's Avatar
    Join Date
    02-26-2007
    Location
    Woodridge, IL
    Posts
    2,967
    Thanks
    204
    Thanked 346 Times in 210 Posts
    Images: 23

    Re: Buying from a convicted smuggler???

    I was thinking Reid from Captive Bred Specialties.
    What are these mojavas I keep hearing so much about?

    J. W. Exotics

    Reptile Incubators

  7. #7
    BPnet Veteran Patrick Long's Avatar
    Join Date
    02-16-2005
    Location
    Ventura, California, United States
    Posts
    8,209
    Thanks
    564
    Thanked 987 Times in 736 Posts
    Images: 36

    Re: Buying from a convicted smuggler???

    I posted a review about that book maybe six months ago when it first came out. Loved it. Read it in 2 days.

    Shows the light on the dirty side of this business.


    As far as your question goes, no matter who it is.....

    I think something like this should be looked past once he has served his time.

    Hell, a lot of the blood lines that we have in captivity are products of smuggled animals.

    He was a dirty dude....but we have animals in captivity that many people own because of him (not just reptiles either).

  8. #8
    BPnet Veteran Patrick Long's Avatar
    Join Date
    02-16-2005
    Location
    Ventura, California, United States
    Posts
    8,209
    Thanks
    564
    Thanked 987 Times in 736 Posts
    Images: 36

    Re: Buying from a convicted smuggler???

    Quote Originally Posted by PythonWallace View Post
    I was thinking Reid from Captive Bred Specialties.
    OP did say two.

  9. #9
    BPnet Veteran PythonWallace's Avatar
    Join Date
    02-26-2007
    Location
    Woodridge, IL
    Posts
    2,967
    Thanks
    204
    Thanked 346 Times in 210 Posts
    Images: 23

    Re: Buying from a convicted smuggler???

    Quote Originally Posted by Patrick Long View Post
    OP did say two.
    I think Reid had a partner in Hawaii or or Miami or something. I need to read that book since that was the only smuggler I knew. I saw your review of it and I've been meaning to get a copy.
    What are these mojavas I keep hearing so much about?

    J. W. Exotics

    Reptile Incubators

  10. #10
    BPnet Senior Member waltah!'s Avatar
    Join Date
    10-08-2007
    Location
    New England
    Posts
    5,648
    Thanks
    1,483
    Thanked 1,252 Times in 931 Posts
    Images: 8

    Re: Buying from a convicted smuggler???

    Ok, now I gotta pick up that book!
    --Walt

Page 1 of 2 12 LastLast

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •  
Powered by vBadvanced CMPS v4.2.1