What would you do?

[TheOtherLeadingBrand]

OK we have the following:

Three breeding size normal females of unknown genetics

One pastel male (gorgeous!)

One proven breeder albino male (he's my avatar picture)

One proven breeder het pied male

We are thinking of doing a breeding of each male to one of the females...

But then, what do I keep, and what then?

Also, we have a het albino female- obviously I am going to breed her to the straight up albino male. Am I right in assuming that will give me on average, 3/4 albinos and 1/4 het albinos?

Our het piebald female is no where near breeding size or age yet, so she's waiting in the wings.

Obviously I am new at this... but I love the genetics side of it and the possibilities we have.

[FatBoy]

OK we have the following:

Three breeding size normal females of unknown genetics

One pastel male (gorgeous!)

One proven breeder albino male (he's my avatar picture)

One proven breeder het pied male

We are thinking of doing a breeding of each male to one of the females...

But then, what do I keep, and what then?

Also, we have a het albino female- obviously I am going to breed her to the straight up albino male. Am I right in assuming that will give me on average, 3/4 albinos and 1/4 het albinos?

Our het piebald female is no where near breeding size or age yet, so she's waiting in the wings.

Obviously I am new at this... but I love the genetics side of it and the possibilities we have.

Pastel X normal should give you 50% pastels 50% normals. Keep all the females.
Albino X normal will give you all 100% hets. Keep the females.
Het pied X normal will give you 50% het pied, personally I would not do this pairing, breed her to the pastel and shoot for more pastel females.
Albino X het albino should give you 50% albinos and 50% hets.
Remember all these numbers are statistics...not definates.

[TheOtherLeadingBrand]

Thanks- so I should hold off on the het male until I can use him on the het piebald girl... that works. Then I will get het piebalds and actual piebalds, right? OMG I can't wait for that

[dr del]

Hi,

Tough call.

Since you have het pied and het albino females I'm not sure you would get a lot of advantage to breeding a clutch of 50% poss het pieds and holding back all the females, or having more female het albino's.

But it really depends on your long term goals - doing the above you would have more chance of extra recessive offspring with only 3 years to wait and you would know the full history of the animals. But they would also all be related to the males you have.

Personally I would think about running the pastel through all three breedable age females and possibly exchanging, or selling, the offspring to either get unrelated animals of the genes you already have or possibly even adding more varieties.

But in the end it comes down to what you really plan on long term.


dr del

[FatBoy]

Het X het gives each egg a 25% chance of being normal, 50% chance of being a het, and 25% chance of being a visual pied.

[TheOtherLeadingBrand]

My main goal right now is I want to make piebalds. I just have a HUGE obsession with them, and I don't want to buy one... when I can try making my own. I think it will be a lot of fun! But I do have the baby het pied.

I like the idea of getting the pastels- I can sell them now, and they are pretty. We are open to buying another morph if there's one that would make more cool stuff and be good with what we have.

[Wh00h0069]

Here is what I would do:
Pastel to all normal females. Keep all pastel females from this pairing. Sell all others.
Albino to het albino. This should give you ½ albino and ½ het albinos. Maybe keep a female albino or two. Sell all others.
Eventually het pied to het pied. This should give you ¼ pieds and all others will have a 66% chance of being a het. Keep any pied. Sell all others.

Good luck with whatever you decide to do.

[FatBoy]

You can use the money you get from saleing the snakes you dont need to keep to buy a couple codom males (spider, pin, mojave, ect) these bred to a normal will give you 50% visuals, and bred to pastel females will give you some nice combos.

BTW...personally I see nothing wrong with making 100% het albinos, there is a market for them.

[aff19802]

Since your in it for pied's... weigh your odds i do all pastels or maybe 1 to my albino sell all and you could buy a couple of het pied's and be pumping pied's next season.

pastel x normal= 50 50
albino x normal = all 100 het albino
het pied x normal = don't even consider finding which ones will be het pied.

so then u sell most ur offspring keep any female albino maybe 1 or 2 pastel females if u wanna try supers...

so you will have some normals to sell
het pieds
albino males
pastels

piick up read to breed het pied

[kc261]

It depends on where you want to be several years from now. If you are interested in doing lots of combos with either albino or pied, I would consider breeding those males each to one normal to get some het or phet females to raise up to help out later with your combo projects. Even then, it depends on what combos you want to make. A het female can be useful in a co-dom/recessive combo, but not so much in a double recessive combo.

If you don't have a lot of interest in pursuing those combos, then I'd either breed the pastel to all 3 females, or I'd pick up 1 or 2 more co-dom males.