ok so it turns out, that pastel I got from my friend had mites. I treated with PAM and a reptile mite body spray(forgot the name of it) And well its been about a week and have not seen a mite since. So how am I supposed to know when the mites are gone and can be placed in the rack with the others. I am asking because I cant see them on him, I never did. He was soaking in his bowl and I saw a couple dead ones.