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    Bel

    I was under the assumption that if you put a mojaveXmojave you have a chance at getting a real blue eyed lucy. But just today a local breeder told me that if you put a mojoXmojo you get a blue eyed lucy that isnt a true blue eyed lucy. You get a BEL but one that has a lavender color on it's head. Now am I wrong to believe that if I put a mojoXmojo i will get this

    http://www.lanthano.org/IMR4MR/karma.jpg

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    or will I get a BEL but not a real BEL such as this



    now the second picture I thought was a super mojo, right??? i got these tips from royal constricordesigns. PLEASE HELP ME UNDERSATND. I thought I had it figured out but now I'm just confused
    Last edited by dr del; 04-17-2009 at 10:29 PM. Reason: no hotlinking and giving picture attrib

    1.2 normal 0.1 pinstripe
    1.1 spider 1.0 butter
    2.0 pastel
    0.1 mojave

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    Re: Bel

    yes a you can make a Blue eyed from a butterXbutter LesserxLesser mojoXmojo russoXrusso or any combo of these the super mojo seems to be the one that has collor but it still is a blue eyed and the super lesser seems to be the cleanest
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    Re: Bel

    When you breed a mojave to a mojave you get what a super mojave which looks like the second picture and it is not a true BEL, but if you breed a mojave to a lesser then you get a true BEL.... and just wondering where do you live, because garrick at royalconstrictordesigns is in wausau, WI so where do you live, i live in chippewa falls, wi about 20 minutes north of eau claire!!!! i havent met anyone on here that lives nere me!
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    Re: Bel

    There are different BEL and let's just say that not all BEL are created equal.

    While some people like the Super Mojo, I personally don't, it all comes down to personal preference.
    Last edited by Stewart_Reptiles; 04-17-2009 at 10:47 PM.
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    Re: Bel

    What are these people talking about?
    Yes Mojave X Mojave has a 1/4 chance of producing a Blue-eyed leucistic and yes it looks more like the second picture.
    Whether it has colour or not... it is still a Lucy.
    Some combos are cleaner than others as mentioned.
    If you are looking for an exceptionally clean Lucy, then you may want to look into something other than a homozygous Mojave.
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    Re: Bel

    Mojave x Mojave is a REAL Blue Eyed Leucistic...

    So is Lesser x Lesser

    Butter x Butter

    Het Russo x Het Russo

    And any combination of those

    Just because it is not solid white with no other color does not mean it is not Leucistic.

    Like it was said, if you want the cleanest white snake with blue eyes, Mojaves are not the BEST. I would suggest going with the Super Het Russo, or the White Diamond, as they are called.


    Plus the photo that you have linked is also very washed out by light...
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    Re: Bel

    Quote Originally Posted by LadyOhh View Post
    Mojave x Mojave is a REAL Blue Eyed Leucistic...

    So is Lesser x Lesser

    Butter x Butter

    Het Russo x Het Russo

    And any combination of those

    Just because it is not solid white with no other color does not mean it is not Leucistic.

    Like it was said, if you want the cleanest white snake with blue eyes, Mojaves are not the BEST. I would suggest going with the Super Het Russo, or the White Diamond, as they are called.


    Plus the photo that you have linked is also very washed out by light...
    so Is the only option to get a BEL like the first picture to put a white diamondXwhite diamond. Pretty much what I'm trying to say is. I really love the way BEL's look(the first pic, dont like the second) but I cant really afford one so I am trying to find the less expensive way of making a BEL(like the one in the first pic) So price wise what should I do. Remember I'm not that rich so again the most affordable of making a BEL(like the first picture)

    1.2 normal 0.1 pinstripe
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    Re: Bel

    Then...
    Male: Lesser
    Female: Mojave
    Should work out pretty well for you.
    -Steven

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    Re: Bel

    Ok just so everybody knows the first picture is a Karma (Phantom X Lesser) totally different critter all together..You can also get a totally white snake buy hitting a Lesser pied.
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    Re: Bel

    I'm not that rich so again the most affordable of making a BEL
    If you do not like the Super Mojo than you next most affordable way will be Lesser x Lesser and it will give you a clean BEL
    Deborah Stewart


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