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    Hello,


    Does any one know about or have you heard of a rare eye disease in ball pythons called pop-eye? I am trying to find more information on it, but can't anywhere besides the one sentence in a ball python book I own. Has anyone had any experiences with this so called disease?
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    Re: Pop-Eye?

    Quote Originally Posted by Coils View Post
    Hello,


    Does any one know about or have you heard of a rare eye disease in ball pythons called pop-eye? I am trying to find more information on it, but can't anywhere besides the one sentence in a ball python book I own. Has anyone had any experiences with this so called disease?
    I have never heard of pop-eye.

    I have had animals get blocked lacrimal ducts. This results in fluid build-up in the eye, creating a bulging effect.

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    Re: Pop-Eye?

    Quote Originally Posted by Coils View Post
    Hello,


    Does any one know about or have you heard of a rare eye disease in ball pythons called pop-eye? I am trying to find more information on it, but can't anywhere besides the one sentence in a ball python book I own. Has anyone had any experiences with this so called disease?
    Yes, actually. I don't know anything about it, but I remember someone mentioning it on these forums a long time ago.

    Let me see what I can find..

    Edit: In fact, I think Tim Bailey has talked about it before if my memory serves me right.. I think his pinstripe had a genetic pop eye. Wow, I could be completely wrong, but that just came to me.

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    Re: Pop-Eye?

    Quote Originally Posted by Skiploder View Post
    I have never heard of pop-eye.

    I have had animals get blocked lacrimal ducts. This results in fluid build-up in the eye, creating a bulging effect.
    Could you tell me a little more about this? How it is caused and why it happens? What exactly must be done about it...and is it reoccurring?
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    Re: Pop-Eye?

    The nasolacrimal duct drains tears from the spectacle into the oral cavity. It can get blocked by substrate, hair from prey or other small items the snake ingests.

    Some animals can be predisposed to infections of this duct. Either way, by infection or by blockage, the tears are unable to drain from the eye into the mouth and the eye begins to bulge.

    I've had it occur from a blockage via ingestion in a black-headed python. The snake's eye ended up filling up with clear fluid and bulging. Prior to that, he showed a disinterest in food and was rubbing his face on objects in his enclosure. It was also fairly obvious that he was having issues seeing out of that eye.

    The Vet diagnosed it immediately and removed the blockage - fur and a bit of aspen inside of his mouth. This was followed by a spurt of clear fluid and immediately his eye was back to normal.

    As a precaution against potential secondary infections, he was put on Gentamyacin antibacterial eye drops for 14 days. He has had no reoccurrence.

    May I ask what issues you are having?

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    Re: Pop-Eye?

    Quote Originally Posted by Skiploder View Post

    May I ask what issues you are having?
    My ball python Rin has some rather large eyes. I was looking at old pictures of her when she was a baby(that I haven't looked at since I took them) and have noticed her eyes seem to be a lot bigger than they were then, like -abnormally- big. I was sure she just had slightly large eyes, but it's gotten very odd looking over a period of time.

    I also got my second pastel Todd a while ago and then really noticed during comparing them that her eyes were in face a bit larger.

    It seems to be BOTH eyes as well and not just an eye so I made a vet appointment for Saturday to check it out. I have thus been trying to find out anything I can about the eyes and what causes them to maybe bulge. This kinda sounds like what might be wrong with -her-. However, she is eating just fine(ate Monday no problem) and acts fine when holding her or in her cage from what I have seen. She doesn't rub her face on anything as if it's bothering her.

    I am thinking this might be it though...as there looks to be a bit or clear space before it actually gets to her EYE inside the spectacle! She HAS been a bit jumpier as well and might be having trouble seeing despite it being clear fluid blocking her vision.
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    Re: Pop-Eye?

    Quote Originally Posted by Skiploder View Post
    The nasolacrimal duct drains tears from the spectacle into the oral cavity. It can get blocked by substrate, hair from prey or other small items the snake ingests.

    Some animals can be predisposed to infections of this duct. Either way, by infection or by blockage, the tears are unable to drain from the eye into the mouth and the eye begins to bulge.

    I've had it occur from a blockage via ingestion in a black-headed python. The snake's eye ended up filling up with clear fluid and bulging. Prior to that, he showed a disinterest in food and was rubbing his face on objects in his enclosure. It was also fairly obvious that he was having issues seeing out of that eye.

    The Vet diagnosed it immediately and removed the blockage - fur and a bit of aspen inside of his mouth. This was followed by a spurt of clear fluid and immediately his eye was back to normal.

    As a precaution against potential secondary infections, he was put on Gentamyacin antibacterial eye drops for 14 days. He has had no reoccurrence.

    May I ask what issues you are having?


    Does this sound like what might be happening here? I mean she is going to the vet(only time I could get her in was on saturday) but I am worried/worry until I actually find out.
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    Re: Pop-Eye?

    Got a pic?

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    Re: Pop-Eye?

    Quote Originally Posted by Coils View Post
    Does this sound like what might be happening here? I mean she is going to the vet(only time I could get her in was on saturday) but I am worried/worry until I actually find out.
    I was cued well before the eye enlarged by my snake's jumpy and odd behavior. In retrospect, it should have been obvious he was in some sort of discomfort.

    I was told that it's fairly rare that both ducts get clogged at the same time. Most of the infections or blockages are apparently unilateral.

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    Re: Pop-Eye?

    Quote Originally Posted by Skiploder View Post
    I was cued well before the eye enlarged by my snake's jumpy and odd behavior. In retrospect, it should have been obvious he was in some sort of discomfort.

    I was told that it's fairly rare that both ducts get clogged at the same time. Most of the infections or blockages are apparently unilateral.

    The slightly odd behavior for HER(jumping) hasn't been going on for very long and it is BOTH eyes that seem to be rather large and weird looking, like both the same size, but bigger than what I would think they should be.
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