spiderxpastel

[zombie&lemons]

i know you get 25% change of a bumblebee

but i was wondering is the bumblebee a co dominate or is it dominate

[mainbutter]

The technical way to refer to a bumblebee is as a combo morph between two morphs: dominant(spider) and co-dominant(pastel), since it isn't a base morph.

We can only refer to genes as dominant or co-dominant or recessive, and since the bumblebee morph is not caused by a single mutated gene, unlike the base morphs.

[ARamos8]

A bee in its own right has a chance of producing a bee when crossed with a normal. IMHO, since this is a possibility I will say that a bumble bee is a co-dominant which not only produces its base morph - pastels and spiders but also a bumble bee as well. Sire passes a bee gene, dam passes a normal gene. Smells co-dominant to me.

Just the same, a killer bee (aka super pastel spider) does the exact same thing.

[Bluebead]

A bee in its own right has a chance of producing a bee when crossed with a normal. IMHO, since this is a possibility I will say that a bumble bee is a co-dominant which not only produces its base morph - pastels and spiders but also a bumble bee as well. Sire passes a bee gene, dam passes a normal gene. Smells co-dominant to me.

Just the same, a killer bee (aka super pastel spider) does the exact same thing.

Actually, since we are talking about seperate alleles or genes, you cant call it a bumblebee 'gene'. Instead its two seperate genes acting together.
A bumblebee bred to a normal would produce(averages)
25%bumblebees
25%spiders
25%pastels
25% normals

Since the killer bee has a pair of alleles(pastel) and can only pass one of them on with the gametes (sperm or egg) you cant reproduce them when bred to a normal.
killerbee bred to normal produces
50% bumblebees
50% pastels

Thats why we call these 'morphs' instead
There is a great explanation on marks site:
http://www.ballpythons.ca/genetics.html

[ARamos8]

I should have been more specific. Producing its base morph. Thanks for clearing it up, my ten minutes ran out when I noticed what I typed.

[Bluebead]

Its all good; I made a few incorrect posts before I got my head wrapped around the genetics side of our amazing animals. I'm sure I still do, but hopefully less and less as time goes on

[ARamos8]

Right on. I was handling my Bee as I was typing and I guess I just got caught up in the moment. LOL

[Bluebead]

Right on. I was handling my Bee as I was typing and I guess I just got caught up in the moment. LOL

Hahah I dont blame you!!! I'm hoping for a Bee this year too