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    Genetics Question?

    Whats the percentages with butter het hypo x bumblebee het hypo? My punett square is all messed up. Thanks for any help.

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    Re: Genetics Question?

    You will have to do your own math on it... but there it is... courtesy of the good people @ geneticswizard.com.

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    Het. Hypo, Het. Butterc,
    x
    Het. Hypo, Het. Spiderd, Het. Pastelc,

    3.125% WT
    3.125% Het. Pastelc,
    3.125% Het. Spiderd,
    3.125% Het. Spiderd, Het. Pastelc,
    3.125% Het. Butterc,
    3.125% Het. Butterc, Het. Pastelc,
    3.125% Het. Butterc, Het. Spiderd,
    3.125% Het. Butterc, Het. Spiderd, Het. Pastelc,
    6.25% Het. Hypo,
    6.25% Het. Hypo, Het. Pastelc,
    6.25% Het. Hypo, Het. Spiderd,
    6.25% Het. Hypo, Het. Spiderd, Het. Pastelc,
    6.25% Het. Hypo, Het. Butterc,
    6.25% Het. Hypo, Het. Butterc, Het. Pastelc,
    6.25% Het. Hypo, Het. Butterc, Het. Spiderd,
    6.25% Het. Hypo, Het. Butterc, Het. Spiderd, Het. Pastelc,
    3.125% Homozygous Hypo,
    3.125% Homozygous Hypo, Het. Pastelc,
    3.125% Homozygous Hypo, Het. Spiderd,
    3.125% Homozygous Hypo, Het. Spiderd, Het. Pastelc,
    3.125% Homozygous Hypo, Het. Butterc,
    3.125% Homozygous Hypo, Het. Butterc, Het. Pastelc,
    3.125% Homozygous Hypo, Het. Butterc, Het. Spiderd,
    3.125% Homozygous Hypo, Het. Butterc, Het. Spiderd, Het. Pastelc,

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    d trait you marked as Dominant (homozygous
    and heterozygous forms look alike)
    c trait you marked as Codominant (homozygous
    and heterozygous forms do not look alike)
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    Re: Genetics Question?

    And WT = normal
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    Re: Genetics Question?

    yup with 4 seperate mutations there you get such a variety of results!!

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    Re: Genetics Question?

    Quote Originally Posted by Bruce Whitehead View Post
    You will have to do your own math on it... but there it is... courtesy of the good people @ geneticswizard.com.

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    Het. Hypo, Het. Butterc,
    x
    Het. Hypo, Het. Spiderd, Het. Pastelc,

    3.125% WT
    3.125% Het. Pastelc,
    3.125% Het. Spiderd,
    3.125% Het. Spiderd, Het. Pastelc,
    3.125% Het. Butterc,
    3.125% Het. Butterc, Het. Pastelc,
    3.125% Het. Butterc, Het. Spiderd,
    3.125% Het. Butterc, Het. Spiderd, Het. Pastelc,
    6.25% Het. Hypo,
    6.25% Het. Hypo, Het. Pastelc,
    6.25% Het. Hypo, Het. Spiderd,
    6.25% Het. Hypo, Het. Spiderd, Het. Pastelc,
    6.25% Het. Hypo, Het. Butterc,
    6.25% Het. Hypo, Het. Butterc, Het. Pastelc,
    6.25% Het. Hypo, Het. Butterc, Het. Spiderd,
    6.25% Het. Hypo, Het. Butterc, Het. Spiderd, Het. Pastelc,
    3.125% Homozygous Hypo,
    3.125% Homozygous Hypo, Het. Pastelc,
    3.125% Homozygous Hypo, Het. Spiderd,
    3.125% Homozygous Hypo, Het. Spiderd, Het. Pastelc,
    3.125% Homozygous Hypo, Het. Butterc,
    3.125% Homozygous Hypo, Het. Butterc, Het. Pastelc,
    3.125% Homozygous Hypo, Het. Butterc, Het. Spiderd,
    3.125% Homozygous Hypo, Het. Butterc, Het. Spiderd, Het. Pastelc,

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    d trait you marked as Dominant (homozygous
    and heterozygous forms look alike)
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    and heterozygous forms do not look alike)
    there is no such thing as het pastel or het spider
    Ball pythons: 1.2 pastel, 1.0 Black Pastel 1.0 mojave(green) 0.1 spider, 1.0 het pied, 1.0 het clown, 1.1 het albino, 0.1 pos het albino, 1.0 shatter, 0.2 normals, 0.1 reduced pattern, 0.3 dinkers
    Corn snakes: 1.0 blood, 0.1 het blood, 0.1 snow, 0.0.1 reverse okeetee
    Geckos: 2.1.2 crested gecko, 0.0.1 leopard gecko
    Boas: 1.0.1 sand boas
    Other: 1.1 mini australian shepherd, 2.0 cats

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    Re: Genetics Question?

    Thanks for all the help guys!!

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    Re: Genetics Question?

    Yeah what do they mean by het pastels and het spiders?
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    Re: Genetics Question?

    Even if most ball python keepers still don’t call them hets, all pastels and probably all spiders are heterozygous for their respective mutations.

    Many ball python keepers believe that 'het' means normal looking gene carrier but it just happens to work out that way with recessive mutations like albino which might have been their first exposure to the term. Heterozygous really means having an unmatched pair of genes for whatever mutation you are talking about. A pastel is a het because it has one pastel copy and one normal for pastel copy of the genes at the pastel locus. Until/unless a homozygous spider is proven it's a good bet that any spider you see also is heterozygous at the spider locus (one spider mutant copy and one normal for spider copy).

    By understanding the true meaning of heterozygous and which morphs are heterozygous you can more easily predict the outcome of complex crosses like the one from this thread.

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    Re: Genetics Question?

    Quote Originally Posted by RandyRemington View Post
    Even if most ball python keepers still don’t call them hets, all pastels and probably all spiders are heterozygous for their respective mutations.
    this guy has it right. ALL pastels are het pastel. ALL spiders are het spider(since no homozygous spider has been shown to exist, homozygous spiders are considered fatal I believe). ALL super pastels are homozygous pastels.

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    Re: Genetics Question?

    Quote Originally Posted by mainbutter View Post
    this guy has it right. ALL pastels are het pastel. ALL spiders are het spider(since no homozygous spider has been shown to exist, homozygous spiders are considered fatal I believe). ALL super pastels are homozygous pastels.
    Ditto. heterogenous means 1/2 pair of genes. The genetics wizard just calls them all hets and denotes the type of genetic pairing as recessive, codom, and dom.

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