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    het breeding question

    hi ive a pair of hets ready for breeding, they are spare snakes that ive no plans for but i was going to put them together.

    the male is 100%het albino and the female is 100%het ghost. ive never paired these before and not 100% sure what the outcome would be. can anyone help
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    Re: het breeding question

    Quote Originally Posted by reptile ni View Post
    hi ive a pair of hets ready for breeding, they are spare snakes that ive no plans for but i was going to put them together.

    the male is 100%het albino and the female is 100%het ghost. ive never paired these before and not 100% sure what the outcome would be. can anyone help
    Well the offspring would be 50% possible double hets for both genes.
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    Re: het breeding question

    All offspring will be 50% Het Albino 50% Het Ghosts.

    That is to say:

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    Het Albino Het Ghost

    You will have no indicator which snakes have which traits and only through breeding will you find out which offspring have which traits.
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    Re: het breeding question

    Quote Originally Posted by joepythons View Post
    Well the offspring would be 50% possible double hets for both genes.
    I was going to word it similarly and then I realized it really doesn't make sense. It's only 25% Double Het. While the actual offspring are 50% Possible Het Albino 50% Possible Het Ghost. 50% Double Hets would come from breeding a Het Albino to a Ghost, or a Het Ghost to an Albino.
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    Re: het breeding question

    Quote Originally Posted by Oxylepy View Post
    I was going to word it similarly and then I realized it really doesn't make sense. It's only 25% Double Het. While the actual offspring are 50% Possible Het Albino 50% Possible Het Ghost. 50% Double Hets would come from breeding a Het Albino to a Ghost, or a Het Ghost to an Albino.
    If you breed a morph to a normal you get the 100% hets.So if you bred a visual to a het of something else i think the babies would be 100% hets for the visual gene then possible het(aka 50%) het for the other gene.So i still think the 100% het to a differant 100% het would make possible double hets for both genes.Someone correct me if i am wrong please
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    Re: het breeding question

    Quote Originally Posted by Oxylepy View Post
    I was going to word it similarly and then I realized it really doesn't make sense. It's only 25% Double Het. While the actual offspring are 50% Possible Het Albino 50% Possible Het Ghost. 50% Double Hets would come from breeding a Het Albino to a Ghost, or a Het Ghost to an Albino.
    No...

    Joe is right.

    The outcome from a 100% het Ghost to a 100% het Albino would be ALL 50% possible double hets... All looking normal. If you want to get into the specifics of what the chances for each of the morphs, then you can get messy, but the fact is that the POSSIBLE hets covers the ground of it being a het or not.

    If you breed visual X to het Y, then you would get 100% het AND 50% het Y.
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    Re: het breeding question

    Quote Originally Posted by Oxylepy View Post
    All offspring will be 50% Het Albino 50% Het Ghosts.
    See same thing as you said here
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    Re: het breeding question

    Quote Originally Posted by LadyOhh View Post
    No...

    Joe is right.

    The outcome from a 100% het Ghost to a 100% het Albino would be ALL 50% possible double hets... All looking normal. If you want to get into the specifics of what the chances for each of the morphs, then you can get messy, but the fact is that the POSSIBLE hets covers the ground of it being a het or not.

    If you breed visual X to het Y, then you would get 100% het AND 50% het Y.
    Thank you Heather .I may not be 100% on some of the new gene creations in the ball python world but i did have my share of headaches learning the genetic basics .
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    Re: het breeding question

    thanks guys i knew about the double het side of things but was just wondering if there was a chance of anything visual as ive never paired to different hets before

    thanks ady
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    Re: het breeding question

    Quote Originally Posted by reptile ni View Post
    thanks guys i knew about the double het side of things but was just wondering if there was a chance of anything visual as ive never paired to different hets before

    thanks ady
    No chance at all of getting any visual in this pairing
    Joe Haggard

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