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    Fire x Pastel name

    A few years back someone I know, Brandon Boeke, produced the first ever Pastel x Fire cross. He said he wanted to call it the "Nova Ball".

    Now, I see people selling/displaying Pastel x Fire crosses as "FireFly's".

    I don't get it. Someone renamed a morph that was already named, and other people are calling it that. Kinda upsets me because I know the guy to produce the first one, which is by far the best one I've ever seen.

    Any thoughts?

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    Re: Fire x Pastel name

    Interesting . At times I think the naming of morphs just becomes a tad bit crazy at times ,IMHO. Ben Renick refers to it as a Nova tho'

    http://www.benrenick.com/fire_bp.html

    Wonder if might be the original name was not exposed often enough , though I doubt it , ya get a new morph ya tell the world and its brother I s'pose.
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    Re: Fire x Pastel name

    I think it has to do more with professional courtesy. Mike Wilbanks is the one that termed the fire cross as a "firefly". Brandon bought his fire from Mike and may have got it at a discount and hence, Mike was the one who got to name it.

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    Re: Fire x Pastel name

    Quote Originally Posted by MPenn View Post
    I think it has to do more with professional courtesy. Mike Wilbanks is the one that termed the fire cross as a "firefly". Brandon bought his fire from Mike and may have got it at a discount and hence, Mike was the one who got to name it.
    That could be it. But I, for one, would still refer to it as the Nova. I have all the respect in the world for Mike and he is a great guy, but I think Nova fits it better.

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    Re: Fire x Pastel name

    Quote Originally Posted by MPenn View Post
    I think it has to do more with professional courtesy. Mike Wilbanks is the one that termed the fire cross as a "firefly". Brandon bought his fire from Mike and may have got it at a discount and hence, Mike was the one who got to name it.

    So if I get this right then it was Mike Wilbanks who actually produced the FireFly ( Fire x Pastel ) yeah ? Then Brandon buys a Fire ( NOT a Firefly ) and does the same breeding an calls it a Nova ?

    If thats the case then I have to agree , professional courtesy should be observed. Meaning Mike got first call.

    RKO ...surely the original name has to be respected ? your OP
    Someone renamed a morph that was already named
    kinda suggests that to me here .Whether Nova fits or not is academic surely . It was already named , by the original breeder. Not wanting to upset anyone here but your almost saying ( almost)
    anyone can rename the same morph to a better fitting name ( in there mind ) if the breed th esame .
    Last edited by Royal Tartan; 09-05-2008 at 06:15 AM. Reason: last para added after RKOs post above
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    Re: Fire x Pastel name

    I may be wrong so don't quote me on this.
    It is my understanding that Brandon produced the first fire x pastel. He named it "Nova". But between him and Mike, the name was changed to "Firefly". Why? Not sure. Maybe Brandon can straighten it out. I haven't talked to him in some time but will see what I can find out.

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    Re: Fire x Pastel name

    Im confused now , lol , two breeders , one morph , two names .

    My interest is that the Firefly/Nova is a truely stunning cross , I own a Pastel and wanna eventually breed that to Fire , I like knowing the history of morphs etc , so this is a good thread in determining the history of the Fire x Pastel morph. I am not looking to upset anyone here , just wanna learn more about a wonderful morph.
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    Re: Fire x Pastel name

    Quote Originally Posted by Royal Tartan View Post
    So if I get this right then it was Mike Wilbanks who actually produced the FireFly ( Fire x Pastel ) yeah ? Then Brandon buys a Fire ( NOT a Firefly ) and does the same breeding an calls it a Nova ?
    Brandon produce the FIRST Fire x Pastel cross and called it a 'Nova'.

    Then Mike produced a Fire x Pastel cross about a year later and called it a 'FireFly'.

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    Re: Fire x Pastel name

    Half the morph names are totally confusing anyways.
    Whatever it is the look amazing.

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    Re: Fire x Pastel name

    Quote Originally Posted by RKO View Post
    Brandon produce the FIRST Fire x Pastel cross and called it a 'Nova'.

    Then Mike produced a Fire x Pastel cross about a year later and called it a 'FireFly'.

    Ok that clears that up ! It was getting to be a tad bit confusing ( ok ahm easily confuzzled ! )

    So it would seem the honours , so to speak , go to Brandon .

    There ought to be a place where breeders can register the name of morphs and they stick. Least that way , original name ( perceived good or bad ) remains true.

    Either way it is an awesome cross in my eyes.
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