Oh my god, please not IBD.

[Peter Williams]

Last night right before I went to bed, I was checking on my CH females I acquired in april. Most are doing well, but some are still problem feeders, and at present I am force feeding about 5 of them (out of 20). I always look at the problem feeders before I go to bed to make sure they're all doing ok. 4 of them were, and when I came to the last one, I saw her belly up and immediated thought she was dead. I opened her tub and she was not, she was just sitting there, upturned. I know this is not uncommon, but this is a hatchling and I have never seen one do this. I flipped her over and the she immediated started doing a "spider-style" wobble. I became worried that because she is NOT a spider, she should NOT be doing this. I took some videos to see what you guys think. I'm hoping that I'm just in a panic because I read Jen Harrison's story yesterday. Please tell me what you think:







That last video was taken this morning. If this is IBD, what are the chances the rest of my collection has been infected?

[xdeus]

That last video was taken this morning. If this is IBD, what are the chances the rest of my collection has been infected?

That definitely looks like something to be concerned about, but I wouldn't jump to any conclusions just yet (IBD). If it is IBD, then chances are good that the rest of the CH babies will get it as well. Hopefully your quarantine procedures are good enough to prevent the rest of your collection from getting it as IBD is highly contagious.

Right now I would keep the snake separate from the others and just observe it. Those symptoms could be from a number of things including a genetic disorder or exposure to elevated temperatures, but until you can confirm that it isn't contagious you should assume that it may be transmitted to other snakes.

Good luck!

[LadyOhh]

If she is not dead, she will be very soon.

VET ASAP.

It may or may not be IBD. It may be a neurological issue in this particular animal.

The only way you will know is if you get a necropsy done ASAP.

And if it is, your whole collection will have to be destroyed.

[Peter Williams]

If she is not dead, she will be very soon.

VET ASAP.

It may or may not be IBD. It may be a neurological issue in this particular animal.

The only way you will know is if you get a necropsy done ASAP.

And if it is, your whole collection will have to be destroyed.

Oh my god.

[jorgasm]

I'm sorry your snakes aren't doing so well.

[littleindiangirl]

That is very terrible, the animal looks even worse with the concave stomach. I would never jump on the IBD band wagon right away, but a vet trip is definitely in order.

[LadyOhh]

Oh my god.

I'm sorry...

But you cannot take this type of thing lightly, especially if she JUST started exhibiting these signs.

I really think you need to take her to the Vet and have a necropsy done to conclude whether or not it is just in this animal or if it really is something that can be contagious.

I really really hope for your sake it isn't.

Keep us updated.

[starmom]

Ditto to everything that Heather said. I also noticed in your sig that you have a bumblebee coming soon. I would make arrangements for the breeder to hang onto for you until you have the necropsy done to rule out infectious disease.

I am so very sorry.

[Spaniard]

Good luck man, try your best to remain positive; thinking of all the bad things that could be will not make this any easier. Get to the vet ASAP and let us know how it goes.

[Peter Williams]

Ok lets say it is IBD, how is it transmitted, if I have other snakes in the same room, is it likely they have it, or is it just contact, or what? I only quarantined for 3 months, this snake was with the rest of my collection, I moved it 2 floors away from the other snakes but crap...I'm so scared.