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    Ball Python Breeders

    So tonight I was talking with my father in law about the snakes that I breed. We started talking and I showed him some of the different morphs I was working with and that I planned on working with in the near future. We started talking about the market and how the economy has effected the market as well as how the market for ball pythons is in general. As we continued talking he expressed interest in possibly financially backing me in some of my breeding plans but to make sure it was a good investment he asked if I could get some details from some current breeders out there. I'm looking for information from small breeders who produce 20-30 snakes a year, up to breeders who produce thousands a year so don't feel like you can't chime in.

    Basically some of the things he wants to know are:

    How many animals do you produce a year (mainly focusing on 05 and forward even how many you've produced this year)

    Of the animals you produce each year how many have you sold?

    Of the animals you did not sell, how many were due to lack of interest and how many were due to holding them back?

    How have you noticed the economy's effect on your sales? Have you noticed due to the economy that more high end or low end morphs are selling, and is this a change from when the economy was better?

    Do you do most of your sales online, in person at shows, or in a retail setting?

    On average how many snakes do you loose a year as well as how many snakes do you loose on average yearly due to incubation issues? (IE eggs going bad)

    Do you find you sell more Doms/Co Doms, Recessives, Or Crosses?

    I'd really appreciate any of this information anyone can give. If you do not feel comfortable posting this information publicly you can feel free to PM me or e-mail me with the information. Thanks in advance. Also feel free to post your website with the information so when I go to him with some of the information I gathered I can direct him to your site for a bit more of a visual on what you are producing. Thanks in advance!
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    Re: Ball Python Breeders

    J.R.
    I do not have time to form the thourough response that I would like to make right now, but I will chime in on this sometime in the next 5-7 days. It's been busy lately.
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    Re: Ball Python Breeders

    Thanks Tim, I understand this time of year is hectic with so many clutches hatching. I appreciate you even finding the information for me.
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    Re: Ball Python Breeders

    I've heard from breeders that on average only 50% of the females they breed go each year. So keep that in mind. You may have one specific morph female that you're counting on for that big cash clutch. And she doesn't go. And maybe not the next year either. Or you may be trying to get that popular dbl codom to hatch, say a bumblebee, and the odds just aren't in your favor. And you may have only one pastel or spider female to breed, whereas a larger breeder will have many to breed and produce many bumblebees.
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    Re: Ball Python Breeders

    Here is a small poll from this site that asks about the success rate for the ball python breeders on this site http://ball-pythons.net/forums/showthread.php?t=60370 .

    Hope this helps.
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    Re: Ball Python Breeders

    Yea I kept all of that in mind and I've explained that to him already. I've bred the last two years so I know all about that and about not hitting the odds. I also explained the odds to him as well which is why he expressed interest in the recessive morphs and the "super" forms of the co-doms. The questions I asked are just specifically what he asked for. Thanks for the link I'll check it out!
    ~Dexter Mason~
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