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    My BP swallowed some bark..

    it was eating its second mouse.. but it couldent get it down so it took it out its mouth and tried again but when it took it out the mouse was all wet so some bark stuck to the mouse before it actually ate it... it was kind of a lot like the whole upper body of the mouse was covered in bark.. maybe it was like 7 or 8 small pieces.. will my snake be okay?

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    Re: My BP swallowed some bark..

    what kind is it

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    Re: My BP swallowed some bark..

    Quote Originally Posted by Thor26 View Post
    what kind is it
    regular brown reptile bark

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    Re: My BP swallowed some bark..

    The biggest problem I see in this scenario, if I am understanding it correctly, is that your python was eating its second mouse in one feeding, which caused it a problem, and that it was doing so simply because you find it to be too challenging to drive for an entire twenty minutes to purchase an individual, more suitable rat. I do not perceive a problem with two mice being fed at once, per se, but simply in the fact that you appear to consistently take shortcuts in your keeping of your python, and alway look to expend as little energy and money as possible, and that, even in the smallest of ways, be they coincidence or not, your python is paying a price for this. As a further example of this, how do you feel about taking your python to a vet, so that all of your doubts about this (at least third) incident of bark swallowing could be placated? Do you find it sensible that an expert examining your animal, and thus having access to data, would be more likely to offer you accurate advice than would someone who can merely answer your question in a theoretical manner? Because, theoretically, your python should be "okay," if this is all you wish to know.

    Aside from discussing the physiology of pythons and, specifically, their digestive system and how it would react to alien, non-food materials being ingested, what are your plans to discuss your personal approach to husbandry in a critical manner, and to soberly assess what I construe as being near-laziness and sloppiness, not to mention disregard for the ideal health of your animal? Will striving to do the most that you can for your python, as opposed to as little as is acceptable, ever be an issue for you?

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    Re: My BP swallowed some bark..

    What's wrong with feeding multiple mice? Does that mean I'm lazy and take short-cuts because all 45 of my Ball Pythons eat mice? It all adds up, weight-wise, so it doesn't matter if the prey is mouse, rat, ASF rat, jerboa, whatever.

    You are correct in saying the OP does take alot of short-cuts with his snake, it's his first snake and he likes to assume he knows better than people who have had hundreds, if not thousands, these snakes for 30 years or more. But anyway!

    The bark will pass through and the snake should be fine. If you're worried, use newspaper for bedding or fine-shred aspen. Remember, they can digest bone, so a little cellulose, which is likely already in the mouse's stomach anyway, isn't going to hurt anything.
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    Re: My BP swallowed some bark..

    Quote Originally Posted by LNQuinn View Post
    The biggest problem I see in this scenario, if I am understanding it correctly, is that your python was eating its second mouse in one feeding, which caused it a problem, and that it was doing so simply because you find it to be too challenging to drive for an entire twenty minutes to purchase an individual, more suitable rat. I do not perceive a problem with two mice being fed at once, per se, but simply in the fact that you appear to consistently take shortcuts in your keeping of your python, and alway look to expend as little energy and money as possible, and that, even in the smallest of ways, be they coincidence or not, your python is paying a price for this. As a further example of this, how do you feel about taking your python to a vet, so that all of your doubts about this (at least third) incident of bark swallowing could be placated? Do you find it sensible that an expert examining your animal, and thus having access to data, would be more likely to offer you accurate advice than would someone who can merely answer your question in a theoretical manner? Because, theoretically, your python should be "okay," if this is all you wish to know.

    Aside from discussing the physiology of pythons and, specifically, their digestive system and how it would react to alien, non-food materials being ingested, what are your plans to discuss your personal approach to husbandry in a critical manner, and to soberly assess what I construe as being near-laziness and sloppiness, not to mention disregard for the ideal health of your animal? Will striving to do the most that you can for your python, as opposed to as little as is acceptable, ever be an issue for you?


    ok buddy i never said it was too challenging to drive 20 minutes... im only 18 years old and i had my drivers license suspended because of probation so its not so easy for me to get around thats why i just go to that close by pet shop to get mice... and how do i always take short cuts? this is my first BP sure ive made mistakes but im sure every1 has made mistakes when they got their first one

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    damn!

    Quote Originally Posted by LNQuinn View Post
    The biggest problem I see in this scenario, if I am understanding it correctly, is that your python was eating its second mouse in one feeding, which caused it a problem, and that it was doing so simply because you find it to be too challenging to drive for an entire twenty minutes to purchase an individual, more suitable rat.
    The problem is the python ate bark!

    So bark does not stick to rats?
    So bark will not stick to the first rodent the snake eats and allways the second rodent?
    If you drive the rodents in your car for 20 minutes then bark will not stick to them?

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    Re: damn!

    Quote Originally Posted by the bull View Post
    The problem is the python ate bark!

    So bark does not stick to rats?
    So bark will not stick to the first rodent the snake eats and allways the second rodent?
    If you drive the rodents in your car for 20 minutes then bark will not stick to them?
    C'mon Bull, don't confuse everyone with logical thought.
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    Re: damn!

    Quote Originally Posted by the bull View Post
    The problem is the python ate bark!

    So bark does not stick to rats?
    So bark will not stick to the first rodent the snake eats and allways the second rodent?
    If you drive the rodents in your car for 20 minutes then bark will not stick to them?

    Kudos... LOL!

    Answer the questions please. I want to know if I drive 20 mins (instead of the 45 I drive now) that the bark will never stick to the rat, or accidentally attach a fang!

    Ps. To the OP:

    Don't let that dood hate, its not your fault the snake at the bark. If you are worried about the eating of bark, I would use newspaper in the feeding "cage" (ie box, tupperware etc). Just put a bit of newspaper to catch the mouses fecal matter, urine, and blood. That way the cleanup is easier (provided you aren't using a box).

    Now really! Let me know if I only feed rats that I won't have a snake eat bark again! please please please

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    Re: My BP swallowed some bark..

    I do see a problem other than the third poster, why did you pull the mouse out? Let him do his thing, you could harm him by pulling it out. some bps like to take their time eating, if you were worried about the size you shouldnt have let him try to eat it again. Sorry about the bark, i used to have aspen and changed to paper towels just so this wouldnt happen after a few feedings of me picking aspen off of the mouse once he had it in his grip.
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