dif between corns, kings and rats?????

[sg1trogdor]

I was just wondering whats the difference between the different colubrids? Thanks I am having a heck of a time finding any info online.

[Shelby]

Well, colubrids are a huge group of snakes.. they include not only kings, milks and rat snakes.. also rear fanged venomous, including the deadly boomslang.

Cornsnakes are considered a rat snake species.

Kings and milks are pretty closely related.. there are more tri-colored milks than kings, but there are tri-color kings as well.

Not sure exactly what you want to know about them.. if you have a more precise question, I can try to help you out.

[Momma T]

Heres some of ours...
Mandarin Rat Snake

Albino Rat Snake (sold to me as a leucistic... but I think hes an albino cause he has red eyes)

Albino Nelson's Milksnake (high white)

[Argentra]

ohhh.... That Albino Nelsons is SMOKIN!! Gorgeous snake there...

Here are my four corns for comparison:

2 year old Ghost male


1 year old Amel male


7 month old Anery female


9 month old(really) HypoBloodred female

Picture from the breeder(SerpenCo) website to show her colors better:

[Momma T]

ohhh.... That Albino Nelsons is SMOKIN!! Gorgeous snake there...

Here are my four corns for comparison:

2 year old Ghost male


1 year old Amel male


7 month old Anery female


9 month old(really) HypoBloodred female

Picture from the breeder(SerpenCo) website to show her colors better:

Awww they are beautiful!!! hypo blood has rockn cool colors!!!

[Argentra]

Thanks. They're my babies...especially the Ghost. And I can't wait to see what that hypoBlood is going to look like as an adult...*drool*. She's my big hope for making some Ghost Bloods.

[Ophiuchus]

I'm sure there's certain anatomical differences that separate these species; scale count, body shape, keeled/unkeeled scales, etc etc. Of course, on the genetic/DNA level, thats where you really compare.

I think corns are somewhere inbetween kings/milks and the other U.S. rats. I mean, they have smooth scales unlike their rat kin, and they seem to breed more readily with kings/milks than with other Pantherophis/Elaphe; hence all the hybrids. Of course, they have been some occasional P. obsoleta/guttata crosses, but they're few and far between compared to the "jungles" (Cal king x corn), "sinacorns" and etc.

[Shelby]

Here's some of mine:

Greyband king:



Speckled king:



Hypo honduran milk:



Two california kings:

[kc261]

I think corns are somewhere inbetween kings/milks and the other U.S. rats. I mean, they have smooth scales unlike their rat kin, and they seem to breed more readily with kings/milks than with other Pantherophis/Elaphe; hence all the hybrids. Of course, they have been some occasional P. obsoleta/guttata crosses, but they're few and far between compared to the "jungles" (Cal king x corn), "sinacorns" and etc.

Do you have any idea if this is because those crosses are easier, or just because kings/milks and corns are the more popular species, while most of the rat snakes aren't as popular?

[kc261]

Here's some of mine:

Greyband king:

That speckled face is so cute!