Vote for BP.Net for the 2013 Forum of the Year! Click here for more info.

» Site Navigation

» Home
 > FAQ

» Online Users: 829

0 members and 829 guests
No Members online
Most users ever online was 47,180, 07-16-2025 at 05:30 PM.

» Today's Birthdays

None

» Stats

Members: 75,903
Threads: 249,099
Posts: 2,572,072
Top Poster: JLC (31,651)
Welcome to our newest member, wkeith67
Page 1 of 4 1234 LastLast
Results 1 to 10 of 31
  1. #1
    Anti-Thread Necro Patrol
    Join Date
    05-10-2007
    Location
    Columbus, Georgia, United States
    Posts
    4,561
    Thanks
    334
    Thanked 1,230 Times in 739 Posts
    Blog Entries
    1
    Images: 51

    BP living with a venomous snake

    Shocked when I saw it but kinda makes sense whe I think about it.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cqFITWQwaAc

    Quote from the author:

    "The Ball was a gift and currently lives with the Squamiger. They occupy different nitches in the cage but do interact. As I mentioned, the Ball has in the past taken mice right out of the mouth of the Squam. Other than that one incident they get along fine. Many Zoo's are now setting up mixed environments as long as the species get along."

  2. #2
    in evinco persecutus dr del's Avatar
    Join Date
    04-20-2006
    Location
    Edinburgh, Scotland
    Posts
    24,527
    Thanks
    9,263
    Thanked 6,788 Times in 4,306 Posts
    Images: 93

    Re: BP living with a venomous snake

    Hmm.


    Just sounds damned idiotic to me. Why would this be considered advantageous for either species?


    dr del
    Derek

    7 adult Royals (2.5), 1.0 COS Pastel, 1.0 Enchi, 1.1 Lesser platty Royal python, 1.1 Black pastel Royal python, 0.1 Blue eyed leucistic ( Super lesser), 0.1 Piebald Royal python, 1.0 Sinaloan milk snake 1.0 crested gecko and 1 bad case of ETS. no wife, no surprise.

  3. #3
    BPnet Senior Member joepythons's Avatar
    Join Date
    12-03-2005
    Posts
    12,500
    Thanks
    697
    Thanked 1,074 Times in 888 Posts
    Images: 1

    Re: BP living with a venomous snake

    Quote Originally Posted by dr del
    Hmm.


    Just sounds damned idiotic to me. Why would this be considered advantageous for either species?


    dr del
    I second this!! Someone should place those people in a cage with a lion and see how the feel .
    Joe Haggard

  4. #4
    BPnet Veteran Mendel's Balls's Avatar
    Join Date
    04-07-2006
    Location
    Pennsylvania
    Posts
    1,073
    Thanks
    94
    Thanked 39 Times in 22 Posts
    Images: 40

    Re: BP living with a venomous snake

    Quote Originally Posted by MasonC2K

    Quote from the author:

    "The Ball was a gift and currently lives with the Squamiger. They occupy different nitches in the cage but do interact. As I mentioned, the Ball has in the past taken mice right out of the mouth of the Squam. Other than that one incident they get along fine. Many Zoo's are now setting up mixed environments as long as the species get along."
    And what exactly are those two different niches? Looks like they are both eating dead rodents provided by the keeper to me. Kind of hard to even occupy a niche let alone two when you have none of the basic components of a self-sufficient ecosystem in play.

    Do these species ranges even overlap in the wild? Is there any chance of the two meeting due to the introduction of one of them as an exotic species?

    The fact that the bp stole a rodent from the Squamiger demonstrates quite simplely that they are competitors.

    While I could maybe stretch my mind to see a few reasons to house the two together for a controlled experiment, I don't think this is what the the video producer has in mind. Furthermore, such experiments would be crude and are unlikely to meet experimental animal care guidelines.
    Last edited by Mendel's Balls; 05-28-2007 at 06:40 PM.
    ~ 1.0.0 Python regius ~ Wild-type ~
    ~
    1.0.0 Canis familiaris ~ Blue Italian Greyhound ~

    ~ 0.0.9 Danio rerio~ Wild-type and Glofish




  5. #5
    BPnet Veteran jhall1468's Avatar
    Join Date
    08-04-2005
    Posts
    496
    Thanks
    0
    Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
    Images: 4

    Re: BP living with a venomous snake

    Quote Originally Posted by MasonC2K
    Shocked when I saw it but kinda makes sense whe I think about it.
    No it doesn't. Zoo's mix animals that regularly cohabitate... as in, they would comfortable be around each other in the wild. A Ball Python is NOT going to be chilling around a bush viper.

    Poor husbandry from someone that doesn't know what he's doing (at the very least, with the ball).
    Justin Hall

  6. #6
    BPnet Veteran jhall1468's Avatar
    Join Date
    08-04-2005
    Posts
    496
    Thanks
    0
    Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
    Images: 4

    Re: BP living with a venomous snake

    Quote Originally Posted by Mendel's Balls
    Do these species ranges even overlap in the wild? Is there any chance of the two meeting due to the introduction of one of them as an exotic species?
    They might overlap, but only barely as BV's are typically found further east than Ghana. However, interaction at that close is unlikely (or if it would occur, would be short-lived) since BV's are aboreal. Suffice to say, the habbitat they share is completely unlike that which may occur in the wild. The quarters are simply too close.
    Justin Hall

  7. #7
    BPnet Veteran Mendel's Balls's Avatar
    Join Date
    04-07-2006
    Location
    Pennsylvania
    Posts
    1,073
    Thanks
    94
    Thanked 39 Times in 22 Posts
    Images: 40

    Re: BP living with a venomous snake

    Quote Originally Posted by jhall1468
    They might overlap, but only barely as BV's are typically found further east than Ghana. However, interaction at that close is unlikely (or if it would occur, would be short-lived) since BV's are aboreal. Suffice to say, the habbitat they share is completely unlike that which may occur in the wild. The quarters are simply too close.
    Exactly!
    ~ 1.0.0 Python regius ~ Wild-type ~
    ~
    1.0.0 Canis familiaris ~ Blue Italian Greyhound ~

    ~ 0.0.9 Danio rerio~ Wild-type and Glofish




  8. #8
    BPnet Veteran steveo's Avatar
    Join Date
    08-10-2006
    Location
    Devon - westcountry - uk
    Posts
    836
    Thanks
    1
    Thanked 4 Times in 3 Posts
    Images: 13

    Re: BP living with a venomous snake

    i just cant belive what i saw in that vid :eek:
    [b]Steve Irwin Febuary 22nd 1962 - September 4th 2006 [font=Century Gothic]R.I.P


  9. #9
    Banned Earl's Avatar
    Join Date
    05-16-2007
    Location
    Mega City
    Posts
    1,105
    Thanks
    23
    Thanked 77 Times in 49 Posts

    Re: BP living with a venomous snake

    Poor husbandry from someone that doesn't know what he's doing (at the very least, with the ball).
    I've seen that guys videos on youtube before and I don't like what he does at all. When he handles his snakes with a hook he appears clumsy and he had one video where he let a Gaboon Viper roam around the room which seemed small and cluttered. It wouldn't surprise me if he gets bit one day.

  10. #10
    Anti-Thread Necro Patrol
    Join Date
    05-10-2007
    Location
    Columbus, Georgia, United States
    Posts
    4,561
    Thanks
    334
    Thanked 1,230 Times in 739 Posts
    Blog Entries
    1
    Images: 51

    Re: BP living with a venomous snake

    I assumed by "niche" he meant the BP was ground dweller and the other a tree dweller, thus not competing for the same space. Ican wrap my mind around that idea but I do think feeding them together is a no-no.

Page 1 of 4 1234 LastLast

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •  
Powered by vBadvanced CMPS v4.2.1