how many dom forms are there of Balls?

[MATT FISHER REPTILES]

i know there are spiders. i just wanted to know if there were any others. and i know supers are dom. but i just want to know if there are any other doms out there.

[Freakie_frog]

So far.

Spider
Pinstripe
Granite

[elevatethis]

What about the dominant hypo...they're rare, but I remember seeing it listed in Kev's book...

[Freakie_frog]

What about the dominant hypo...they're rare, but I remember seeing it listed in Kev's book...

Well I think thats how you make honey bees?? not sure on that though

[LadyOhh]

I don't think so, Ed.

HoneyBees are recessive ghost and Spider. I'm sure a Dom Hypo would work (which I am not familiar with), but in general....

And Pins may or may not be dom... Brian needs to share with the world first before we can make that assumption.

As for Granites... I'm not sure about that one.

[Freakie_frog]

Heres the source..

http://ballpythons.ca/genetics.html

[MATT FISHER REPTILES]

i thought a spider bred to a normal would produce all spiders. if that is true then that web site is worng.

[Freakie_frog]

spider bred to a normal give a 50%-50% chance of spider baby's. Because it only takes one copy of the gene to produce the morph and the parent only has one copy(heterogeneous). How ever breed spider to spider and get all spiders. And in theory one of the offspring from a spider to spider breeding would carry's two copies(homogeneous) of the gene so it bred to a normal would produce all spider offspring like a super pastel bred to a normal would produce all pastels.

[MarkS]

I guess that depends on what your definition of 'Dominant' is. Co Dominant and Incomplete Dominant mutations would also be considered Dominant type mutations. I think what you're asking is what I've heard termed 'Simple Dominant' Which means that The mutation is Dominant to 'Normal' but that the heterozygous form and the homozygous form look the same. As to that, I don't think any mutations have been proven simple dominant yet. Spider is the leading contender but even that hasn't been proven as there are no proven homozygous spiders. And there is rumored to be a homozygous pinstripe that looks different but BHB isn't releasing pics of it yet and Bryan probably won't release them until he has proven it to his own satisfaction.

Mark

[RandyRemington]

"i know supers are dom."

Actually super is just our industry term for a homozygous co-dominant. Not sure if we'll use it for a homozygous dominant animal if we ever prove one but I'm thinking not.

Please try not to propagate the misuse of "dominant form" where "homozygous" should be used. "Dominant" is a mutation type and the mutation type doesn't change depending on if you are looking at a heterozygous or a homozygous example of a mutation. For example, pastel is a co-dominant mutation because of the way a heterozygous pastel looks in relation to a homozygous pastel (both mutants but different from each other). The mutation type doesn't change from co-dominant to dominant depending on if you are looking at a pastel or a super pastel.