Who is the dad?

[Alice]

How often does a clutch hatch where more than one visiable morph male was placed with the same normal female and the clutch has hatchlings from both males? I'm not talking about males that carry multiple genes themselves, but single morph males.

For example, a breeder places both a mojave and a spider male in with one normal female at different times in the breeding cycle . . . how often do you get both spiders and mojaves in the one clutch? Does anyone do this intentionally? If so, what are the odds that both males' sperm fertilize the eggs?


Thanks

[MPenn]

I do not know how often or what the odds are, but I do know it happens.

Two years ago, Mike Wilbanks bred a normal female to 3 co-dom morphs (can't remember which off the top of my head) and hatched out 4 eggs; one of each morph and one normal.

[Freakie_frog]

Normaly this doesn't happen we try and keep the same morphs with the same female for that season. I.E spider to female #5 mojave to female #3 and so on. Some breeders will cycle more than one male of the same morph with a female to insure that the breeding took. But this makes it impossiable to keep track of sire records for holdback breeding and records keeping. Hope this helps.

[Adam_Wysocki]

From experience, I would guess about 50% of the time when multiple males are used.

-adam

[Alice]

Wow! Thanks everyone. While I know most breeders back up one male with another, I didn't realize that they might use differnt co-dom males to one female and the clutch reflect those multiple males.
Interesting possibilities. . . .

[JASBALLS]

Wow! Thanks everyone. While I know most breeders back up one male with another, I didn't realize that they might use differnt co-dom males to one female and the clutch reflect those multiple males.
Interesting possibilities. . . .

I'm breeding all my codoms to the same females this year, All the normals will be just that normals.. But who knows what I'll get morph wise.. This is So Fun!!

[stangs13]

So I could breed a male spider and pastel to a normal and get pastels and spiders and Bummble bees? Or could I no, because it is 2 male genes.

[JLC]

So I could breed a male spider and pastel to a normal and get pastels and spiders and Bummble bees? Or could I no, because it is 2 male genes.

Definitely no bumble-bees from that combo.

[stangs13]

OK Thanks.

[JASBALLS]

So I could breed a male spider and pastel to a normal and get pastels and spiders and Bummble bees? Or could I no, because it is 2 male genes.

Two males can not fertilize the same egg. But two males can father the same clutch. It doesnt always happen though. But I'm sure trying!