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    Ahhhhh!

    Cyclone regurgetated he feeding today. He is currently shedding but I have fed him the last time when he was shedding. Did I do something wrong? The hopper wasn't that big so I think it can't be that. I am really confused. When should I try and feed him again? :eek:

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    Re: Ahhhhh!

    I can't remember if he was in the blue when you fed him but that could be a reason since they tend to have a harder time sensing things. I'd wait 10 days and then try again. Since I don't have a BP maybe some other members can help me out, I am just going by what would happen if my corn had regurged. Once you wait the 10 days try a slightly smaller prey size and keep him in a place where he won't be disturbed. Hope that helps some!
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    Re: Ahhhhh!

    Quote Originally Posted by ReptileQueen
    Cyclone regurgetated he feeding today. He is currently shedding but I have fed him the last time when he was shedding. Did I do something wrong? The hopper wasn't that big so I think it can't be that. I am really confused. When should I try and feed him again? :eek:
    Ball Pythons will regurgitate for a variety of reasons, but most commonly it is due to stress or illness. It would be difficult for someone on a forum to say exactly why your snake may have regurged. We may be able to help determine some factors that may be stressing your snake if you describe his setup, but I would recommend a visit to the vet to get him thoroughly checked out.

    In the mean time, try not to handle him at all and don't attempt to feed for at least a week, preferably two.

    Good luck!

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    Re: Ahhhhh!

    While we're on the subject, my BP is about a foot and a half, maybe closer to 2 feet. I'm having a hard time knowing how much to feed him. The past 2 feeds (which is once per week) i've fed him 2 adult mice. Before that, I was only on 1 per week. He's never refused a meal, never regurged, and will gobble those mice one after the other. Sometimes I think I just got lucky when it comes to feeding time, or maybe i'm just doing something right. But how do I know how much is to much?
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    Re: Ahhhhh!

    Quote Originally Posted by xdeus
    Ball Pythons will regurgitate for a variety of reasons, but most commonly it is due to stress or illness. It would be difficult for someone on a forum to say exactly why your snake may have regurged. We may be able to help determine some factors that may be stressing your snake if you describe his setup, but I would recommend a visit to the vet to get him thoroughly checked out.

    In the mean time, try not to handle him at all and don't attempt to feed for at least a week, preferably two.

    Good luck!

    I have Cyclone in a ten gallon for now with an undertank heater. I use aspen for bedding, plus a hiding log and he has a big water bowl to soak in. The temp stays around 90 for the basking/ warm side and around 80 on the cooler side. I feed him in a seperate container so I know that the bedding didn't play any part in this.

    Thanks for the advice!

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    Re: Ahhhhh!

    Quote Originally Posted by ReptileQueen
    Cyclone regurgetated he feeding today. He is currently shedding but I have fed him the last time when he was shedding. Did I do something wrong? The hopper wasn't that big so I think it can't be that. I am really confused. When should I try and feed him again? :eek:
    When you say "he is currently shedding," do you mean that right now he has patches of skin coming off? Or, do you mean that he is just in blue and getting close to actually shedding skin?

    If "he is currently shedding" means that he's got patches of skin still on him, what you actually have is a retained shed.

    Ball pythons with lots of retained shed can become stressed to varying degrees as a result, or, that retained shed is a symptom that overall conditions aren't right, which may be the actual stressor.
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    Re: Ahhhhh!

    Quote Originally Posted by elevatethis
    When you say "he is currently shedding," do you mean that right now he has patches of skin coming off? Or, do you mean that he is just in blue and getting close to actually shedding skin?

    If "he is currently shedding" means that he's got patches of skin still on him, what you actually have is a retained shed.

    Ball pythons with lots of retained shed can become stressed to varying degrees as a result, or, that retained shed is a symptom that overall conditions aren't right, which may be the actual stressor.

    The only patches that are left are by his head. But like I said before he has eaten for me the last time and had no problems during his shed to feed.

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    Re: Ahhhhh!

    What I'm saying is that your snake is not "still shedding." Ideally, the actual shedding of the skin is a process that should take minutes, not weeks - given that the snake's environment is suitable to enable them to shed their entire skin in once piece.

    Since your snake did not shed completely, you have what is called a retained shed. This is an indication that your humidity is too low.
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    Re: Ahhhhh!

    Regurgs are not something to take lightly. It is very hard on a snake's system. My concern would be internal parasites. Have you ever had a fecal done on this bp? If not I think it would definitely be worth considering. You can collect a sample and take to your vet, by putting it in a baggie and refrigerating it until you can get it into the vet office. (hopefully by the following morning)

    If you do not have a vet, this link may help you locate a good herp vet in your area. http://www.arav.org/USMembers.htm
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    Re: Ahhhhh!

    Feeding in a seperate container means you have to handle the snake before and after feeding which can be stressful for the snake. You should not handle a snake for a couple of days after feeding because this can cause regurg. This may be your problem but a fecal test is cheap and could rule out parasites. Good luck.

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