Snow and Okeetee [DUW]

[neoskaura]

I finally got my computer running (I've been using the computer at work for the last few weeks), so I was able to grab my pictures of my snakes. The first one is my baby girl who is an okeetee, the second one is my adult male who is a snow. My favorite picture I used as my avatar . Aren't they pretty?

http://www.ball-pythons.net/gallery/...9/_a200532.jpg

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[knox]

I love Corns - I have a little Okeetee female myself.

[neoskaura]

Now....If I could just think of some names for these two.....

[Kilo]

Question isn't a Okeetee rat snake the same exact thing as a normal corn? When I bought my normal corn I bought it as a Okeetee Rat Snake and it looks exactly like yours!

I too have a male snow corn... but mine is a baby! Mine is all white and yours has yellow on his neck and head. Is this common for snows? Or just adult snows? Can someone shed some light on this?

[Pork Chops N' Corn Bread]

That okee is sweet, not a big fan of how the snows yellow out though. Hows the okee feeding for you? Okeetee corns are not rat snakes. Normal corns are however often called red rat snakes. Thats another reason why latin or scientiific names were orginated. People in different areas call the same species by differnt names. For example, lots of the farmers up here call black rat snakes( Elaphe obsoleta obsoleta) while many people down south call them black chicken snakes.
Hope this clears it up a bit although I think I made it more confusing

[Kilo]

That okee is sweet, not a big fan of how the snows yellow out though. Hows the okee feeding for you? Okeetee corns are not rat snakes. Normal corns are however often called red rat snakes. Thats another reason why latin or scientiific names were orginated. People in different areas call the same species by differnt names. For example, lots of the farmers up here call black rat snakes( Elaphe obsoleta obsoleta) while many people down south call them black chicken snakes.
Hope this clears it up a bit although I think I made it more confusing

So is an Okeetee corn a Normal Corn?

[Pork Chops N' Corn Bread]

So is an Okeetee corn a Normal Corn?

There really is no such thing as a normal corn from what I have seen. All "normal" corns look different depending on where they are from.

[Pork Chops N' Corn Bread]

After reading a bit, I came up with this
Okeetee Corns (classic corns, South Carolina wildtype) These snakes are characterized by deep red dorsal blotches surrounded by very black borders. The ground color varies with bright orange being the most desirable. As with the Miami phase, selective breeding has changed the term "Okeetee" to an appearance trait rather than a local designation. Over hunting in their natural range for the pet trade has caused a decline in wild Okeetee specimens. Responsible purchasers should seek captive bred Okeetees.

Taken from
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Corn_Snake

[neoskaura]

He's not really as yellow as the picture. The white balance on the camera wasn't adjusted properly for the room. He's really a pale yellow at his head with some white highlights, but the rest of his body is the standard snow colors.

Actually my avatar picture is a better representation of the colors on his head.

[piranhaking]

Okeetee corns are not rat snakes.

Actually ALL corns are rat snakes. They are genus Elaphe which is the same as all rat snakes that i know of off the top of my head (according to the ICZN which is the international group that sets the official rules for nomenclature, some people are wanting to change the naming around a little but as far as i know the ICZN hasnt changed it yet). Also several corn morphs are crosses with rat snakes. Creamsicles are a cross between an amel corn and a great plains rat snake. Some of the "frosted" varieties are crosses with some other type of rat snake, but i cant remember exactly which one.