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    Question Balls and Boas

    On another forum that I frequent there is quite a large debate about whether it is safe to house boas (such as BCI's and BCC's) in the same snake room as Balls. I prefer not to take such a chance however I'm curious as to what you folks here think.

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    Re: Balls and Boas

    I think most will say one snake, one enclosure unless breeding.

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    Re: Balls and Boas

    I would like to know what's so unsafe about keeping them in the same room? I keep two BPs and one boa in the same rack together and have never had any problems. They were all quarentined from each other before they were placed in the same rack... so I know they're not sick. What's the big deal if they all have their own container?

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    Re: Balls and Boas

    Quote Originally Posted by Entropy
    On another forum that I frequent there is quite a large debate about whether it is safe to house boas (such as BCI's and BCC's) in the same snake room as Balls. I prefer not to take such a chance however I'm curious as to what you folks here think.
    He didn't mean same enclosure

    I would say its ok, as long as quarentine is met,etc,etc,etc.
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    Re: Balls and Boas

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    Re: Balls and Boas

    oh geez same snake room? I mis-read that. Sorry.

    well if that's the advice that is given, i guess my next house will need 100+ rooms. geez this business is getting to expensive.

    seriously..i think that's a mistake. yeah, quarantine new snakes for a few months to ensure it's not sick...but separate room, for each snake? what a load.

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    Re: Balls and Boas

    Quote Originally Posted by ladywhipple02
    I would like to know what's so unsafe about keeping them in the same room? I keep two BPs and one boa in the same rack together and have never had any problems. They were all quarentined from each other before they were placed in the same rack... so I know they're not sick. What's the big deal if they all have their own container?
    I believe the concern is that some boas may carry IBD but show no outward symptoms ... ever. These animals would seem healthy but would in fact transmit the virus to other snakes. Unfortunately I am not sure of the actual statistics on boas who do carry it, but show no symptoms. That is where the concern is arising.
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    Re: Balls and Boas

    I have one herp room (a former dining room) and yes, my snakes are all in the same room; 5 BPs and one BCI. It would probably be useless to house them in seperate rooms anyway, since our floor of the house has an open floor plan, and any bacteria that'd be airborne would travel around, anyway. But I always handle my BCI last, if I am handling or cage-cleaning more than once in a day, and take precautions in between any animal handlings; wash hands good, etc.
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    Re: Balls and Boas

    Tigerlilly, that is exactly the debate on the other forum. With the devistating effects that IBD has on balls and the fact that boas can be 'quiet' carriers quarantine is not necessarily good enough.
    I know quite a few people keep both and this forum has such a nice diversity I was just curious as to the thoughts here.

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    Re: Balls and Boas

    Even when they are housed in seperate rooms, IBD has been known to spread from boas to balls. Lets say you have a boa in quarantine in another room... and just once, you forget to wash your hands?

    Seems to me, the only way to know for SURE is to have your snakes tested for inclusion bodies before you introduce them into a collection, or the room with your collection.

    Of course, even then, some people debate whether it's really the inclusion bodies that kill the snake or if the inclusion bodies sufficiently weaken the snake's immune system so much that a simple RI eventually kills the snake (example: AIDS doesn't kill... it just weakens the immune system so much that a person dies from a cold).

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