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[Razaiel]

... or am I going mad?

BP temperatures - my temperatures inside my BPs viv are 82 cool end and 92 hot end - these are inside the hide temps. Am I cooking my snake??

I've double-checked caresheets etc and they all seem to say basically the same thing - cool end 75-80 (never less than 75) and hot end at 90.

But twice now I've got told by loads of people on another well-known forum (when I try and help someone else and suggest that their temps need upping) that I am completely wrong and they should only be kept in the 80s!!

The first time I just didn't go back to the BP part of the forum - but I looked today and what I see is someone being told to keep their (non-eating) BP at "about 80 degrees" in the warm end!! What I hate to see is someone getting the wrong advice and their snake may die.

Well I guess this is a bit of a rant in a way - but I just wanted to talk to BP experts

[gmmuscle91]

I've always been told to keep the temps at exactly what you have them at. 82-84 cool side and 92-94 hot side.

[jglass38]

Your temps are perfectly fine! 82-84 and 92-94. Rock on!

[adizziedoll]

LOL I know *exactly* what forum you're talking about. I just want to go there and SCREAM b/c there is a lot of very bad advice being given, and animals are suffering. Even the caresheet there has the almost correct temperatures on it!

I think some people are getting the words Boa and python confused over there...

as much as they will *swear* you are COOKING you're snake, you're dead on with your temps.

[jglass38]

LOL I know *exactly* what forum you're talking about. I just want to go there and SCREAM b/c there is a lot of very bad advice being given, and animals are suffering. Even the caresheet there has the almost correct temperatures on it!

I think some people are getting the words Boa and python confused over there...

as much as they will *swear* you are COOKING you're snake, you're dead on with your temps.

I would LOVE to know what forum it is..I might want to start a little trouble

[Razaiel]

Thank you, guys! I wanted to see it in black and white from people rather than caresheets - though I knew I was right. (Jamie - check your PM)

LIke I said, it has happened before over there and I didn't reply back the first time but this time I've sent another message to them (quoting their own caresheet).

You're right - I feel like screaming at them - they really pi$$ me off when it comes to their BP views - especially the person who first piped up and said it was too hot - she doesn't even own a BP!!!!

Come to think of it - they probably don't listen to what I say because I very rarely post on any forum over there except for monitors - so I'm not one of the "well-known" names - I only tend to post if I am sure of the answer or have something definite to say.

Yours in pi$$ed off mode

~Sue

[jglass38]

I didn't realize that was the site you were referring to. They are well known as purveyors of misinformation and flat out lies. They better lay off the Kool-Aid that is being server over there. Stick with ball-pythons.net for the straight dope.

[frankykeno]

Oh well I guess I've been keeping my happy, well fed, shedding just fine, pooping/urating regularily and growing like bad weeds Ball Pythons all wrong all this time!!!!! LOL I must now run and drop those temps....NOT!

Don't worry about it Sue, your temps are fine, your husbandry is bang on and your snake is I assume doing just fine. There's a lot of misinformation out there and a lot of folks that think a keyboard makes them an instant expert.

[jglass38]

The problem is that their "experts" over there consist of a guy who calls himself Julius Squeezer, says he has been keeping snakes for 33 years (I don't believe he has a single BP) and is the head zealot in their non live feeding agenda. Highlights from his drivel:

1. Live feeding is a horrible thing to do and can't be done safely
2. Ball Pythons DONT get RIs (he hasn't heard of a BP getting an RI in 33 years of keeping snakes)
3. Ball Pythons should be kept at temps not exceeding the 80s (90s will cook your snake)
4. He diagnoses snake problems as 100% fact without ever seeing the snake

Scary stuff folks...

[rabernet]

Hmmmm, I know which one you're talking about now. I was thinking of another well known one as well, where I've read them tell people to keep the warm side in the 80's.