Fir as Substrate?

[Bucko]

Hello everyone,
I was wondering if it is safe to use fir as substrate for my ball python? I have a lot of it laying around, since i do use it for my mice.

[sweety314]

the oils in fir and pine are toxic to snakes. I was using it for my rats as well as the mice, but the rats developed wheezing. Once I put the rats on aspen/paper, the wheezing w/some Rx has gone away.


I keep my few live mice on the pine, but aspen is better for the snakes.

[mr~python]

are we talking about fir as in animal hair or do i not know something?

[Wild Bill]

Fir is a type of tree, fur is also known as hair.

[Bucko]

Ok thanks everyone.

[mr~python]

oooh, thats what i was thinking. thanks Wild Bill.