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    Clutch Division Opinions

    I would like to get opinions from you all on this. Details are:

    I have a friend who purchased 1 of the females of my 11 BP's. I have kept and fed and cleaned up behind his snake along with my animals ever since he got it mostly due to the fact that he doesn't have his own place yet and his parent won't allow the animal there.
    He does buy the FT rats and they are here in my freezer so it really isn't costing me any more money to keep 1 more animal, just some of my time.
    Once his female is breeding size, he will want to pair her with one of my males. He has made this clear.
    His Female is only 320 grams now so it looks like I will be caring for her for quite a while before this takes place.
    The incubation will happen here as well.

    What do you all think would be fair as a percentage of the eggs to be his vs mine. I want to be fair to him since he did buy the female but I kind of feel like he has this very easy. One time purchase, no work, reap some reward at some point in the future.

    Even though her genes are not in my interests for my wanted projects, they are genes that I would otherwise not have in the collection.
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    Re: Clutch Division Opinions

    Quote Originally Posted by Bistem View Post
    I would like to get opinions from you all on this. Details are:

    I have a friend who purchased 1 of the females of my 11 BP's. I have kept and fed and cleaned up behind his snake along with my animals ever since he got it mostly due to the fact that he doesn't have his own place yet and his parent won't allow the animal there.
    He does buy the FT rats and they are here in my freezer so it really isn't costing me any more money to keep 1 more animal, just some of my time.
    Once his female is breeding size, he will want to pair her with one of my males. He has made this clear.
    His Female is only 320 grams now so it looks like I will be caring for her for quite a while before this takes place.
    The incubation will happen here as well.

    What do you all think would be fair as a percentage of the eggs to be his vs mine. I want to be fair to him since he did buy the female but I kind of feel like he has this very easy. One time purchase, no work, reap some reward at some point in the future.

    Even though her genes are not in my interests for my wanted projects, they are genes that I would otherwise not have in the collection.
    Honestly, If it were me, I would allow him to keep one visual morph (male or female) of his choosing. The rest I would keep/sell. If I was housing, heating, caring for and feeding (I know you said he buys the f/t rats however still my chore) the animal I would want to get some compensation for it. I think your friend should find that more than fair as if it were not for your generosity, they would not have a snake at all.
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    Re: Clutch Division Opinions

    Quote Originally Posted by Bistem View Post
    I have a friend who purchased 1 of the females of my 11 BP's. I have kept and fed and cleaned up behind his snake along with my animals ever since he got it mostly due to the fact that he doesn't have his own place yet and his parent won't allow the animal there.
    He can't even house the snake and he wants to breed it? Hilarious!
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    Re: Clutch Division Opinions

    Quote Originally Posted by Lord Sorril View Post
    He can't even house the snake and he wants to breed it? Hilarious!
    I think he only bought it for the purpose of making some money later.

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    Re: Clutch Division Opinions

    Quote Originally Posted by Bistem View Post
    I think he only bought it for the purpose of making some money later.
    You can't make money without spending some money - and time and hard work.

    Is he planning on caring for the clutch when it comes? or having you care for the babies too?

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    Re: Clutch Division Opinions

    Quote Originally Posted by ladywhipple02 View Post
    You can't make money without spending some money - and time and hard work.

    Is he planning on caring for the clutch when it comes? or having you care for the babies too?
    The way it looks, all the work is on me. His female is a Super Pastel, Pinstripe, Chocolate so she is cool since I have nothing else with Chocolate and the super means no normals. He says he will have his own place soon and will take the animal home then but he has been saying that since he got her.

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    Re: Clutch Division Opinions

    I would invite your friend to the forums. It sounds like hes approaching this from the wrong end, and you are carrying the weight. Im not a breeder so my opinion is based off my personal value of time. As previously mentioned I would offer one baby of his choice and do as you feel necessary with the rest.

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    Re: Clutch Division Opinions

    Quote Originally Posted by Russtix View Post
    I would invite your friend to the forums. It sounds like hes approaching this from the wrong end, and you are carrying the weight. Im not a breeder so my opinion is based off my personal value of time. As previously mentioned I would offer one baby of his choice and do as you feel necessary with the rest.

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    I appreciate your sentiment. I guess being retired recently, I have a lot of time and I dont see it as being "much" more work but at the same time, I dont want to be taken advantage of either. I also dont want to be an arse when the time comes. I just want to be Fair and I agree that what you suggest seems fair. If I do it that way, that may be all the incentive he needs to step up his game and contribute more or just see 1 baby worth of reward for his investment.

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    Re: Clutch Division Opinions

    Quote Originally Posted by Lord Sorril View Post
    He can't even house the snake and he wants to breed it? Hilarious!
    This isn't funny, this is 60% of the community right now. A "Breeder" on IG has like 14 snakes, all housed at his friends, fed by his friend, cared for by his friend but damn it on IG he is the best breeder there is, well at least since 2011 as he claims which would have made him about 13 and has not produced a clutch yet. So this request is common place now which is truly sad because those animals will be sold soon.

    I have seen people with Tshirts, pens, jackets, logos and stickers all before they have ever paired their own snakes they got off CL to make millions.

    Get a job, move out of mommy's house and be an adult. Why is this so hard these days.
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    Re: Clutch Division Opinions

    Quote Originally Posted by ElliotNess View Post
    This isn't funny, this is 60% of the community right now. A "Breeder" on IG has like 14 snakes, all housed at his friends, fed by his friend, cared for by his friend but damn it on IG he is the best breeder there is, well at least since 2011 as he claims which would have made him about 13 and has not produced a clutch yet. So this request is common place now which is truly sad because those animals will be sold soon.

    I have seen people with Tshirts, pens, jackets, logos and stickers all before they have ever paired their own snakes they got off CL to make millions.

    Get a job, move out of mommy's house and be an adult. Why is this so hard these days.
    WOW i'm glad i'm not my friend. You dont hold back dude. There isn't anything wrong with stating the cold hard truth. I just had to laugh.

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