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Nysdec
(Before we start I know NYSDEC should all be in caps but it won't allow that)
Hey there - just another rant about the absurd laws here in NYS and the uneducated DEC officers that enforce them.
I had another conversation with a DEC officer, will remain unnamed, that told me I couldn't legally own a SD reticulated python because - you ready for this, sit down and hold on to your hat....."They are venomous and get so big - a snake that size can deliver a lot of venom." Yup - that's what he said.
It just boggles my mind these are the guys enforcing the laws and sent out to educate the public. Now before you jump on me for talking about LEO's, know I have a lot of respect for them as I work in civil service and have family members and good friends that are LEO's.
After a little disagreement, and education, he agreed they don't get the in depth training they need as to ALL the animals they govern over. He also agreed I had every right to be upset he was ignorant about the snake he was disseminating the wrong information about. He also mentioned the entire state being punished because some dip:cens0r::cens0r::cens0r::cens0r: downstate (sorry NYC residents) had one years ago and things didn't go well was wrong but "...that's how legislation works....punish the masses for an individuals mistakes."
In the end, after explaining the adult size of a true SD retic to him he also agreed it was silly we couldn't own them. Now another reason he's remaining anonymous was another statement he made..."You can own anything you want, just don't get caught with it."
Now I'm not running out to buy anything I want - but it was an interesting conversation none the less.
Last edited by BR8080; 02-03-2018 at 03:53 AM.
Reason: NYSDEC caps not allowed?
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Re: Nysdec
I wont get off track but NY has gone to the birds.. Wasn't like this 30/40 years ago. Gets worse every year.
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Ron, in the world of Dungeons and Dragons, you are “Lawful Good.”
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Re: Nysdec
LOL - I had to google that - it seems fitting from what I read....especially the part about supporting honoring legitimate authority...OBVIOUSLY I don't acknowledge the NYSDEC on this matter LMAO
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Well honestly, I would have probably said the same thing in regards to keep what you want, just dont get caught or be prepared for the consequences if you did. The nice thing about snakes is the average Joe wouldnt know what the heck you had anyways and probably wouldnt care. The knowledgeable guy who would know probably wouldnt turn you in since he would probably like snakes as well.
Just bust out and pick up a black headed python or a GTP. Doooooeeetttttt, Ron Or buck the trend and get a SD retic. Not gonna lie, Caesar is pretty awesome when he's not in shed and being antisocial lol.
Last edited by Sauzo; 02-05-2018 at 02:15 AM.
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Re: Nysdec
Yeah - the BHP will come in time and the SD well...the public will never know LMAO
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0.1 Lesser (Lucille) local pet store
Boas
0.1 Caulkers Cay (CC) from TJ Blevins (Second City Constrictors)
1.0 Sunglow het moonglow (Sonny) from Dustin Dirnberger
1.0 BCI - DH Sharp Snow (Bob) from TJ Blevins (Second City Constrictors)
1.0 Brazillian Rainbow Boa (Babylon) from Ike Lightener (Ike's Exotics & Aquatics)
Pythons
0.0.1 Unknown/undocumented rescue (Roger)
1.0 Northern White Lip (Solo)
Cats
1.1 Domestic short hair (Esther and James)
Snake Wishlist
Drymarchon Malanurus (Black Tail Cribno)
SD/D Retic
Woma or Black Headed Python
Other Reptile Wishlist
Poison dart frogs
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