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    Small animals with bp.

    Hello, to start things off, I want you to know that I have a bioactive terrerium right now with springtails/isopods/and worms. My concern is that since there are no predators to eat them, the little buggers will over populate the tank resulting a high competition for food which might kill off a group of bugs.

    To prevent that, I thought maybe I can introduce a small predator that feeds on bugs like dart frogs(but not dart frogs due to climate differences).

    I know that Bps generally want to be alone and does not like any company.
    My questions are:
    1. Will a 1000kg bp eat a small predator despite being fed timely with appropriate portion.
    2. Will the bp be stressed 24/7 and never get used to smaller organisms?

    I just wonder what is the size cap for bps to not care about the existance, since I know small bugs like huntsman spider doesn't really bug my bp so far.

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    Re: Small animals with bp.

    I suggest looking up ball python interspecies cohabitation information on Google. Do a lot of research. There are stories of a few types of lizards that can cohabitat. Though, this forum isn't very big on that.

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    Re: Small animals with bp.

    What is the setup like? How big and what is the general layout of the setup


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    I know very little about bioactive enclosures, but I can't imagine a BP cohabitating with anything. If the BP doesn't consider it a prey item and eat it, it will most likely cause stress to the BP which could lead to feeding strikes, etc...
    Any which way, I can't imagine it's a good idea.

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    I would be worried more about the bulldozer like effect BPs have on things like oh delicate plants. I would also assume anything that he can fit in his mouth is fair game such as small lizards and amphibians. Not to mention the thought of the humidity levels needed to maintain a bioactive terrarium and the possibility that the bio waste emitted from a full grown ball python may overwhelm the "cleanup crew" and actually collapse their colonies. Full grown balls can release a lot of waste which would require a regular partial breakdown of the enclosure to clean which of course defeats the purpose of a self sustaining ecosystem.

    I used to be big into self sustaining fresh water planted aquariums and if there is one thing I know it is that when you introduce a large animal to a small ecosystem, that ecosystem almost always fails.

    Edit I could also be wrong about new bioactive setups...

    https://www.thebiodude.com/blogs/bio...d-ball-pythons

    Edit 2: I was however looking at a youtube video by the biodude and one of his replies is that ball pythons don't urinate so now I am a little hesitent to think this guy knows what he is talking about because if they don't pee WTH is the liquid flood every time mine drops off urates?
    Last edited by SDA; 08-31-2017 at 09:15 PM.

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    Sorry to make a second reply here but here is a video from the biodude to show his take on how to setup a bioactive enclosure. I personally have issues with several of the statement he makes but see for yourself if you feel it beneficial or not


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    Re: Small animals with bp.

    That was actually quite interesting. Though it would have been helpful if he had stressed the importance of having his heat source controlled by a thermostat.

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