Super Lesser bug eyes?

[MmmBanana]

I am in the market for a female pure white BEL. I spoke with a breeder that told me that super lessers or butters produce the most consistent white snakes, but they can have issues with bug eyes. So, he typically breeds lesser/butter x mojave to produce BELs. Well, I was recently notified that he may have just produced a super lesser.

I have asked if it has any defects, and I am waiting to hear back.

How common are super lessers with bug eyes? I looked on google and couldn't find any pictures of ones with bug eyes. Also, can they develop the bug eyes later in life, or should you be able to tell right after they hatch?

[StillBP]

You would know if it had bug eyes sa soon as it hatched. And I might add that some of them grow into the eyes and as adults you can barely tell. But not all. Bug eyes is fairly common in super lesser/butter. Stupid phone double posted

[StillBP]

You would know if it had bug eyes sa soon as it hatched. And I might add that some of them grow into the eyes and as adults you can barely tell. But not all. Bug eyes is fairly common in super lesser/butter.
http://fire-ballreptiles.com/images/...terfemale1.JPG

[JodanOrNoDan]

You would know if it had bug eyes sa soon as it hatched. And I might add that some of them grow into the eyes and as adults you can barely tell. But not all. Bug eyes is fairly common in super lesser/butter.
http://fire-ballreptiles.com/images/...terfemale1.JPG

This is what I thought for quite a long time as well until a board member here (I am kicking myself because I cannot remember who) had a super lesser develop bug eyes at a later stage.

[StillBP]

This is what I thought for quite a long time as well until a board member here (I am kicking myself because I cannot remember who) had a super lesser develop bug eyes at a later stage.

Hmm never Saw one do that. Have seen them grow out of them but I don't breed lesser to lesser. So I have no first hand experience. And nothing surprises me with ball pythons anymore seems they don't ever do what you expect.

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[OhhWatALoser]

This is what I thought for quite a long time as well until a board member here (I am kicking myself because I cannot remember who) had a super lesser develop bug eyes at a later stage.

ive never heard of them developing them later in life either. If you ever find that post show us. I have seen them become less noticeable into adulthood tho. I've produced 5 super lessers so far, never had a bug eye, my issue has been they're all male. One is a breeder for me. Just got eggs 2 days ago from him (BEL) x lesser, 8 eggs, so hopefully theres a female BEL in there finally and hopefully I continue my no bug eye streak.

[MmmBanana]

Thanks for that picture! Thats the first one with bug eyes I have seen! I am unsure if Im interested in the snake I was asking about anymore. I was thinking it would be priced similar to his other BELs, but he is asking for $100 more because she might also have pastel, GHI, or spider. I don't plan on breeding her, so I think I might be better off waiting for a lesser mojave.

[Dragoon]

Thanks for that picture! Thats the first one with bug eyes I have seen! I am unsure if Im interested in the snake I was asking about anymore. I was thinking it would be priced similar to his other BELs, but he is asking for $100 more because she might also have pastel, GHI, or spider. I don't plan on breeding her, so I think I might be better off waiting for a lesser mojave.

If it were spider an blacklight bulb can tell him that. Wouldn't like someone to say it could be that without taking the miniscule effort to check that.

[MmmBanana]

If it were spider an blacklight bulb can tell him that. Wouldn't like someone to say it could be that without taking the miniscule effort to check that.

I will keep that in mind. I've heard of that, but I wasn't sure if it was 100% accurate. Another thing I'm questioning is, is I keep being told that ALL spiders have wobble. If thats true, couldn't an experienced person spot the wobble and know for sure? The snake just hatched this week. The breeder said he has plenty of time to look for a wobble before the snake would even be ready to ship.

[LotsaBalls]

I have four super Butter I hatched this year, no eye issues. The male has color issues though.