Such thing as too many genes?

[Kaylaaa]

I have been looking into females for my BPs Loki and Aesir, Black Widow and Mojave. Loki has a crap ton of options but I am having a hard time really settling on one. A lot of females I am looking at are 3-5 genes which could give the babies quite a bit of genes if it comes out that way. I am worried it's too many, or even that I will have a hard time defining exactly what is what. When I go to the morph market genetic page some of the offspring options don't even have click able matches to give me anything to go off of. I am wondering if I should stick to something more basic for now or if I should go for it and try for something more complicated? It wouldn't be for quite some time.
Originally I was debating a bamboo and lemonblast female. Hoping to pair the bamboo with my mojave and get some bamboo mojaves, and then pair the lemonblast with Loki and maybe get some Spinnerblasts, Silver Streak Spiders, and Killer blasts (and more) with them.
But then I get carried away and start looking at lessers, butters, and even this gorgeous fire lesser pastel pinstripe. Gah, how do you guys decide on a project? I am so overwhelmed with the options haha.

[Eric Alan]

Gah, how do you guys decide on a project? I am so overwhelmed with the options haha.

That pretty much never changes! Over time, you'll learn to recognize which animals glow and which animals glitter (to you - it's a personal thing). You'll make projects out of the ones that glow and appreciate the ones that glitter. In the beginning, everything seems to glitter which is why it's easy to get overwhelmed. For the ones that glow, though, they're the ones that you're still thinking about days, weeks, months, and even years after you see them (and can remember what you were doing when you first saw them in some instances).

[ladywhipple02]

That pretty much never changes! Over time, you'll learn to recognize which animals glow and which animals glitter (to you - it's a personal thing). You'll make projects out of the ones that glow and appreciate the ones that glitter. In the beginning, everything seems to glitter which is why it's easy to get overwhelmed. For the ones that glow, though, they're the ones that you're still thinking about days, weeks, months, and even years after you see them (and can remember what you were doing when you first saw them in some instances).

This is the best explanation I've ever read for how these animals can affect you. Glow vs. glitter!

[Eric Alan]

This is the best explanation I've ever read for how these animals can affect you. Glow vs. glitter!

Thanks! 'Tis the season, right?

[rlditmars]

I would add that the more genes that are present in a single animal, the harder it is to discern what is the quality of each individual gene. If you stick with single or two gene animals, you have a pretty good idea of the quality because they won't all be melted together. I use this example all of the time but the two worst examples of Yellowbelly will still make an Ivory. However, if you buy an Ivory how do you know what you have, it's a white snake. When you want to add Yellowbelly back to something else, it may or may not be nice. If you buy two awesome YBs and make your own Ivory, then you know whatever comes out of the Ivory later will be awesome. Of course that takes time but you can probably find nice examples of adult single gene animals right now. If you are not worried about how fast you can get to the finish, it may be the way to go. Just select the very best example of a gene/s you want to have, and work it into your plans. Best of luck.

[Ax01]

are u looking for 1 female for them to share for different years/seasons? or 2 separate females?

first, get what u like, what u think is pretty and what u want to produce.

1. I would get a multi-gene girl. I would recommended a Leopard combo, maybe one within the BEL complex of o work with your Mojo boy. u can possibly make a white snake, a purple snake or one with Koop stripes and patterns.

2. I would recommend a Black Pastel or Cinny combo, to produce some Supers and many other stuff with your Black Widow or other cool combos with your MoJo boy. (just be prepared for birth defect issues is u wanna go this route.)

3. Recessives - Pieds and Albinos - also great options but takes more time, more generations. Mojo Pieds, Pastel Pieds, Black Pastel Pieds, Spieds, etc. etc. all look great.

there are endless possibilities with BP's. good luck and have fun.

[Kaylaaa]

are u looking for 1 female for them to share for different years/seasons? or 2 separate females?

first, get what u like, what u think is pretty and what u want to produce.

1. I would get a multi-gene girl. I would recommended a Leopard combo, maybe one within the BEL complex of o work with your Mojo boy. u can possibly make a white snake, a purple snake or one with Koop stripes and patterns.

2. I would recommend a Black Pastel or Cinny combo, to produce some Supers and many other stuff with your Black Widow or other cool combos with your MoJo boy. (just be prepared for birth defect issues is u wanna go this route.)

3. Recessives - Pieds and Albinos - also great options but takes more time, more generations. Mojo Pieds, Pastel Pieds, Black Pastel Pieds, Spieds, etc. etc. all look great.

there are endless possibilities with BP's. good luck and have fun.

Definietly multiple females. I am kind of liking the fire leopard to maybe do some things with the Mojave and Bamboo boy I get later down the road.
Or a Purple Passion female and try some more Purps and Blue Eyed Lucys, even if some Phantoms came out could use those with a pinstrip I would likely get down the road or some other things. Would a Purple Passion go well with a Black Widow too?
I am kind of set on a Lemonblast for my Black Widow, I love the options I could get with them and future possibilities it could offer.
Stupid question but how exactly would I go about producing a Mojave pied or spied? Don't I need two pied genes to produce visible pieds?

EDIT: ohhhhh, I need a mystic in my life for some mystic potions.

[Ax01]

are u looking for 1 female for them to share for different years/seasons? or 2 separate females?

first, get what u like, what u think is pretty and what u want to produce.

1. I would get a multi-gene girl. I would recommended a Leopard combo, maybe one within the BEL complex of o work with your Mojo boy. u can possibly make a white snake, a purple snake or one with Koop stripes and patterns.

2. I would recommend a Black Pastel or Cinny combo, to produce some Supers and many other stuff with your Black Widow or other cool combos with your MoJo boy. (just be prepared for birth defect issues is u wanna go this route.)

3. Recessives - Pieds and Albinos - also great options but takes more time, more generations. Mojo Pieds, Pastel Pieds, Black Pastel Pieds, Spieds, etc. etc. all look great.

there are endless possibilities with BP's. good luck and have fun.

Definietly multiple females. I am kind of liking the fire leopard to maybe do some things with the Mojave and Bamboo boy I get later down the road.
Or a Purple Passion female and try some more Purps and Blue Eyed Lucys, even if some Phantoms came out could use those with a pinstrip I would likely get down the road or some other things. Would a Purple Passion go well with a Black Widow too?
I am kind of set on a Lemonblast for my Black Widow, I love the options I could get with them and future possibilities it could offer.
Stupid question but how exactly would I go about producing a Mojave pied or spied? Don't I need two pied genes to produce visible pieds?

EDIT: ohhhhh, I need a mystic in my life for some mystic potions.

sweetie keep in mind that some of these morphs are one in the same. kinda like Coke and Pepsi. so, Phantom = Mystic, Purple Passion (Mojave Phantom) = Mystic Potion (Mojave Mystic). different brands, but very similar purplish snakes w/ blue eyes. get another Mojave girl if u wanna BEL/white snake with purplish grey heads or a Butter/Lesser is u want a more solid white.

in a nutshell: to create a Mojave Pied or Spied, u would need a visual or het Pied female. breed the kids (who will be het Pied) together or back to their parents. with good odds, u can get Mojave Pied or Spieds. if not, repeat, repeat, try again. Lol

[Kaylaaa]

sweetie keep in mind that some of these morphs are one in the same. kinda like Coke and Pepsi. so, Phantom = Mystic, Purple Passion (Mojave Phantom) = Mystic Potion (Mojave Mystic). different brands, but very similar purplish snakes w/ blue eyes. get another Mojave girl if u wanna BEL/white snake with purplish grey heads or a Butter/Lesser is u want a more solid white.

in a nutshell: to create a Mojave Pied or Spied, u would need a visual or het Pied female. breed the kids (who will be het Pied) together or back to their parents. with good odds, u can get Mojave Pied or Spieds. if not, repeat, repeat, try again. Lol

The edit was meant to mean I prefer the mystic potion haha. Just now wondering if I should get a mystic female and make my own potions or just buy a potion.
I think I have decided to start my project with these males - Black Widow, Mojave, Pied or Het Pied, and Bamboo down the road. Then these females - Mystic or Mystic potion, Spider, and Lemonblast. I know you want more females generally but I want certain things together and don't want more than 2 clutches at a time. I want to start small and work my way up if it all works out.

[andrewross8705]

I haven't decided if I'm going to breed ball pythons or focus solely on my hognose projects but the amount of combinations can be overwhelming. I have a male pastel and a female honeybee. The number of morphs they could produce if I paired them is ridiculous. The honeybee won't be a breeder but it's hard to decide what to pair the pastel with. He's a single gene and there are a lot of possibilities but trying to find the one combo that will glow for me has been difficult.