Black/very dark bp????

[erebus45]

Ok I am wanting to get into getting morphs so I can breed them but the wife throws a fit evertime I mention it she says that messing with genetics are wrong but today she finally mentioned that if I can find a very dark or pure black bp she would let the morph collection begin....... PLEASE HELP ME!!!! I want to start this epic hobby and I can't till i can bring home a black bp lol..... Thank you 1 million times in advance

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[bcr229]

http://www.worldofballpythons.com/morphs/suma/

[Neal]

Yea, Suma is amazing. Depending if you're patient or how much you're looking to spend, you may want to get a male & female mahogany to hook them up to get your own Suma. Otherwise, I think the cheapest Suma I saw was around $900(not 100% sure) or so a few months ago.

[erebus45]

wow those are stunning.... im looking at the pic that was posted and the 2nd and 3rd pic is exactly what I want.... if I do end up getting a male and female mahogany and pair them I know their is a 25% change of getting a super(suma) but of that 25% what Is the chance of getting the color I want. I see on other webites (morph market, google image search) their are some that are all a lite/kinda dark brown not the black. thank you

[erebus45]

I think I have my next 10yrs planned out lol. I'm thinking of this and I want yalls opinion Im thinking about gettting 2 mahogany's pair them in hopes of getting a suma then take the suma and pair him with a cinnamon in hopes of getting a cinnamon super mahogany I see pics of them and they are totally black. Any advice?

[Naraku]

Sadly Suma's are hard to find. http://www.morphmarket.com/c/reptile...-pythons/41044 Not always black either. Mine is that nice black with camo line, he's still young though so not sure if the colors fade. Your best bet is a super cinnamon, or super black pastel. Not as dark as a Suma, still nice though.

[the_rotten1]

Sounds like a plan. Though if you really want to go as dark as they get, black pastel is a good gene to work with. Most of the super black pastels I've seen are darker than the super cinnamons.

http://www.worldofballpythons.com/morphs/black-pastel/

http://www.worldofballpythons.com/mo...-black-pastel/

I love dark snakes.

[erebus45]

ill have to run all this by her and see what she thinks all long as I can get into breeding I don't care what she wants lol the snake that caught her eye to begin all this was the black axanthic the said the reason she liked it so much is because their was hardly any brown mostly black im assuming that means that she wants a black and white (mostly black) bp but idk its hard to tell (her fav. color is black soooo....lol)

[Ba11er]

Breeding is one way to get the morph you want but its easier to just buy it now if your just looking for a pet. Time, money, and effort will all add up and there is no guarantee you get what you want on the first, second, or third go around. Sounds like it might be an issue if you have a bunch of baby snakes around the house.

[erebus45]

Breeding is one way to get the morph you want but its easier to just buy it now if your just looking for a pet. Time, money, and effort will all add up and there is no guarantee you get what you want on the first, second, or third go around. Sounds like it might be an issue if you have a bunch of baby snakes around the house.

I understand the worries but their is no issue with a bunch of baby snakes we will have a whole room for all of our animals and I am good at building things as well (racks) the only issue is I think she just wants what she wants so its kind of a bribe lol ("my snake then your hobby") both she and I love snakes and want to get into this hobby together... later yes, we want try to turn it into a small business including breeding snakes, feeders and we want to also build enclosures for all types of animals.... but in my eyes it will always be a hobby for me regardless if I make money or not....thank you