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Re: Grrrrrrr....
yeah it sucks to see so many animals in stores not setup properly or in bad shape. you have to resist the urge to buy because if you do they will only replace it with another and another and another. i personally don't support stores or breeders/sellers who don't care for the animals.
vaughn
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Re: Grrrrrrr....
It's so bad - similar thing in our of our local stores - they've got a large monitor lizard in a completely inappropriate enclosure with little ground space and goes up high almost to the ceiling - much more suitable for a chameleon. It's decor is 2 rocks - no hide - and a clearly visible heating mat. So far as I can remember there is no UV light either - essential to these lizards. I really want to "rescue" but have nowhere to keep him
Similar things happen to parrots too (I have parrots too) I hate to see big birds in cages they can barely stretch their wings in. When in Spain last year they had birds out and I thought - that's great!! - until a closer look revealed they were literally foot chained to their posts and could hardly move.
It's totally sickening.
Sue
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Re: Grrrrrrr....
I haven't been in a bad pet store in a long time, but a few years ago I went in one that I left in tears because they were doing so many things wrong. They had bearded dragons and leopard geckos together and told me it was okay because the bearded dragons "had all their shots." What really sickened me was this large monitor lizard (3-4') cramped into a 20L tank, I mean literally smushed up against the glass, with a huge gaping, oozing wound (like 4-5 inches in diameter!) in its back with the heat light directly above it. It said "SHHH I'm in Quarantine!" or something on the front of the tank. I tried calling them and speaking to the manager but they didn't take me seriously either... ugh, frustrating.
-Lindsay
0.1 ball python - 1.1 leopard geckos

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Re: Grrrrrrr....
I have seen some horrible pet stores.... but I have also seen some nice ones. I hate it when they cram alot of snakes in one enclosure or snakes of different species. I have seen about 25-30 ball pythons crammed into one enclosure at a Petco. At a local pet store, I had seen a BRB housed with about 9 redtails one time... ...completely different care requirements and not to mention that the all the redtails were 2x the size of the BRB.
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Re: Grrrrrrr....
25-30 in one cage?!?!?! :eek: Oh, what a sheltered life I lead. You gotta wonder about the people who do that. I realize that they have a business, but wouldn't it be better to sell animals not on the brink of death? I'm apparently not over my anger yet. When I used to work in a vet office, I watched a c-section of a boxer and the owner let 1 puppy just die because it would have messed with her dogs stats. I was so horrified. I cried for like two days. I was struggling with one puppy that we never were able to revive, but this other puppy who would've made it was just left to die. I really don't like people sometimes. Can you tell what a chipper mood I'm in this morning?
Christie
Reptile Geek
Cause when push comes to shove you taste what you're made of
You might bend, till you break cause its all you can take
On your knees you look up decide you've had enough
You get mad you get strong wipe your hands shake it off
Then you Stand
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Re: Grrrrrrr....
i was also ticked when i visited the Pets Unlimited store where i purchased my bp 2 weeks ago. at the time they still had 3 left, i had heard that one bp was not feeding and the store was a little worried about it. so i went in yesturday to see a new Boa they got and i found out that they had tried to force feed the little bp and it died. I was a bit ticked, because i am no expert and i know that force feeding is a last resort and it was only 2 weeks sense they recieved the bps. so why not wait longer and give the little snake some time.
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Yep you may be new but your instincts are right. Everything I've been told here or read about says force feeding is not the option to go to unless it must be done and then only by a very very experienced person.
Quick question, why would one puppy mess up a @@@@@'s "stats". How awful to allow a healthy puppy to die for any reason. If you breed anything you should breed with morality as far as I'm concerned and yes this is one of my pet peeves. I don't care if it's your dog under the porch, the rat in the cage in your livingroom or whatever - you don't allow reproduction unless you do it with an eye to the wellbeing of the animal and it's offspring and with the ability to afford to raise and find owners for all offspring produced. Yes I know it's about money often times and breeding is a business but it steams me when I see anyone that disposes of baby animals that didn't need to be born at all if the owner had a whit of sense or worse yet owners that breed unsuitable adults just because they want a certain "look" whether or not the offspring is genetically stable or will eventually suffer from genetic disease/disability.
Okay I'm done venting and I do apologize if I sounded off a bit much there and went off topic in this thread. (Personally Christie I'd have smacked that so called breeder or at least very much wanted to!)
~~Jo~~
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Re: Grrrrrrr....
 Originally Posted by new2BP
i was also ticked when i visited the Pets Unlimited store where i purchased my bp 2 weeks ago. at the time they still had 3 left, i had heard that one bp was not feeding and the store was a little worried about it. so i went in yesturday to see a new Boa they got and i found out that they had tried to force feed the little bp and it died. I was a bit ticked, because i am no expert and i know that force feeding is a last resort and it was only 2 weeks sense they recieved the bps. so why not wait longer and give the little snake some time.
I've had hatchling ball pythons come out of the egg and go 16 weeks without taking their first meal .... 2 weeks it nothing! ... fix the problem that is causing them to refuse food and they will eat!   
-adam
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