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    Is the GARGOYLE Allelic?

    Hi guys, I'm about to acquire a Gargoyle (Black Pastel+Lace Black Back AKA Green Pastel) for my collection and i have a friend who told me that's an allelic animal and that would produce Green Pastels and Black Pastels and no Normals, also if the gargoyle is allelic it would not be able to reproduce itself (produce another Gargoyle by itself). I have never heard that, regarding those 2 morphs. I want the Gargoyle for my Albino Gargoyle project and is this is an allelic animal, that would change the way I combine the genes. Do any of you guys have any info regarding this?

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    1.0 Phantom
    1.0 Enchi Orange Ghost
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    Re: Is the GARGOYLE Allelic?

    Quote Originally Posted by Javier Del Valle View Post
    Hi guys, I'm about to acquire a Gargoyle (Black Pastel+Lace Black Back AKA Green Pastel) for my collection and i have a friend who told me that's an allelic animal and that would produce Green Pastels and Black Pastels and no Normals, also if the gargoyle is allelic it would not be able to reproduce itself (produce another Gargoyle by itself). I have never heard that, regarding those 2 morphs. I want the Gargoyle for my Albino Gargoyle project and is this is an allelic animal, that would change the way I combine the genes. Do any of you guys have any info regarding this?

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    I once had a Gargoyle and I remember hearing something like that but I didn't breed, and I don't want to offer you any wrong information.

    If somebody else doesn't chime in, talk to Sean Bradley with Exotics By Nature.
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    It's allelic.

    https://jkrballstreetjournal.com/201...l-pythons/amp/

    Thats a list of others.

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    Had no idea that green pastel was in the 8 Ball complex. Learn something new every day!

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    Thank you guy.

    I saw the Ball Street Journal and yes, is in fact allelic. That doesn't change my plans but it does the strategy. Just waiting for Tomorrow to pick my boy up.
    Javier Del Valle Ávila
    Trujillo Alto, Puerto Rico🇵🇷

    My Collection
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    0.2 Normals
    1.0 Yellow Belly
    1.0 Pastel Spotnose
    1.0 Coral Glow Yellow Belly
    1.0 Coral Glow Spotnose Yellow Belly
    1.0 Phantom
    1.0 Enchi Orange Ghost
    0.1 Albino
    0.1 Mojave
    0.1 Super Stripe (Yellow Belly-Specter)
    0.1Champagne
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    Got my boy today!
    Javier Del Valle Ávila
    Trujillo Alto, Puerto Rico🇵🇷

    My Collection
    6.9 Ball Pythons

    0.2 Normals
    1.0 Yellow Belly
    1.0 Pastel Spotnose
    1.0 Coral Glow Yellow Belly
    1.0 Coral Glow Spotnose Yellow Belly
    1.0 Phantom
    1.0 Enchi Orange Ghost
    0.1 Albino
    0.1 Mojave
    0.1 Super Stripe (Yellow Belly-Specter)
    0.1Champagne
    0.1 Spider
    0.1 Vanilla Het Orange Ghost
    0.1 Genetic Stripe

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    Re: Is the GARGOYLE Allelic?

    Very nice!

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    Crawling back into the reptile scene once more!

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    Nice pickup.
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    0.1 - Poicephalus senegalus - Stella (Senegal Parrot)
    0.1- Poicephalus rufiventris - Alexa (Red-bellied Parrot)



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    Fun stuff! Thanks for the Ball Street Journal link. I've been out of the loop for too long and hadn't heard about the Spider and Blackhead relationship. Very interesting!

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