Pieds vs banana morphs

[robert7107]

my question may come across a little odd just looking for some suggestions
iam getting back into snakes and more specifically ball pythons with my daughter who is 9. i am torn between the pied ball morph and banana. my daughter loves them both as do i but I don't want to sit on a bunch of babies either or sell them way below cost to move either.

so what is going to sell better in your option i am looking to get my females now already have a 200+ gram mojave wanting two more then plan to pick up male mid next year... this is what i was thinking of getting..


male
banana pastave or banana mojave

females
mojave .... hoping for some bels
vanilla
and either a pastel or lemonblast for third female.
or....
male piedball with some sort of morph .

female
100 % het. pied
2nd female being 100% het for pied with some sort of morph
then of course my mojave

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[cheosamad]

I'm not sure which will sell better, but I will say if you're going to choose your morphs specifically with the intent of turning a profit, you might be looking at the animals for the wrong reasons. Not trying to pass judgement. Buy whichever you think you'll enjoy with your daughter more, don't buy one just hoping to breed it for money.

Ethics aside, I'd say get a banana. I personally think it crosses into other morphs better.

[Oxylepy]

The genes that are being talked about are as follows:

Banana- Codominant - 200
Piebald- Recessive - 400 (50 for het)
Pastel- Codominant - 50
Mojave- Codominant - 100 (400ish for a super)
Vanilla- Codominant - 100
Pinstripe- Dominant - 75

So, of all traits listed, the banana is the highest price single gene, and will yeild the highest value (aside from smashing 2 high end pieds together for pied babies). Combining traits of different snakes increases the overall value of the offspring, so the more genetics you have going in, the more profit you can potentially turn.

Super Mojave isn't really a good choice for getting a profit, as other traits wouldn't be visible.

So whatever you go for, your investment is most likely to end up returned by adding the genetics of numerous lines together. Pied isn't really a good investment unless you're going to end up with pied or 100% offspring (pied x 100% het breeding).

That said, the likelihood of the costs dropping by the time you breed is pretty high.

[Stewart_Reptiles]

If you do not want to sit on a bunch of babies what I would suggest is this get female Pied this year, and in about 12 to 18 months get a male CG or Banana Het Pied (by that time price will have drop some more)

And than best of both world.



It's the most cost effective way to produce something you can both like not having to chose between Pied or CG/Banana, you won't have to deal with tons of animals to hold back, and PH to try to sell, and the male will go well with your Mojave as well.

[robert7107]

I'm not sure which will sell better, but I will say if you're going to choose your morphs specifically with the intent of turning a profit, you might be looking at the animals for the wrong reasons. Not trying to pass judgement. Buy whichever you think you'll enjoy with your daughter more, don't buy one just hoping to breed it for money.

Ethics aside, I'd say get a banana. I personally think it crosses into other morphs better.

No main reason is for the love of it. I just don't want to breed something that won't sell and be sitting on it for a long time.

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[robert7107]

The genes that are being talked about are as follows:

Banana- Codominant - 200
Piebald- Recessive - 400 (50 for het)
Pastel- Codominant - 50
Mojave- Codominant - 100 (400ish for a super)
Vanilla- Codominant - 100
Pinstripe- Dominant - 75

So, of all traits listed, the banana is the highest price single gene, and will yeild the highest value (aside from smashing 2 high end pieds together for pied babies). Combining traits of different snakes increases the overall value of the offspring, so the more genetics you have going in, the more profit you can potentially turn.

Super Mojave isn't really a good choice for getting a profit, as other traits wouldn't be visible.

So whatever you go for, your investment is most likely to end up returned by adding the genetics of numerous lines together. Pied isn't really a good investment unless you're going to end up with pied or 100% offspring (pied x 100% het breeding).

That said, the likelihood of the costs dropping by the time you breed is pretty high.

I figured as much only would have one non het female other two would be 100% het for pied.. daughter wants a white ball Python lol . Main reason why I got Mojave wish I would have researched better...

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