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    Need help to get BP back on track

    We acquired our first snake on June 12 (2 weeks ago). I did plenty of research on corn snakes, went to a reptile show and came home with a ball python. She's about 1.5 years old. I haven't weighed her yet, but she's about 3 ft. long and has some decent girth (close to 3" diameter at her largest point). I was told she ate the day before the reptile show; she was on a diet of live rats. Although I read some about the species, there was obviously a lot of information I did not know. I've made several errors over the past 2 weeks and am looking for advice on getting our snake back on track.

    Error #1 - the first week we had her we held her every day, probably about 15 min per day.
    Error #2 - we attempted to feed her after we had her for a week. We attempted a F/T small rat. We moved her to a separate tub and held the rat in with tongs. She approached the rat, but was not interested. I continued to try and entice her, but hit her in the head with the rat (that was the error). Now she seems much more head shy and scared in general.

    We put her back in her cage and let her be for several days. We held her a few times this past week hoping to calm her so she knows we're not trying to hurt her (perhaps that's Error #3). Tried to feed her a live rat today (Error #4?). The rat was supposed to be 'small' but looked more like a medium size. Again, we had her in her separate container and introduced the rat. She seemed a little curious, but when the rat approached she recoiled in fear. She wanted nothing to do with the rat. After about 5 minutes, I removed the rat. Tried later with a F/T rat, but didn't take that either (I didn't hit her that time ).

    So... I am looking for advice on what you think I need to do to get her back on track. We would like to reduce her fear (since it seems my actions have made her more fearful than she was when she got here) and figure out what to do to get her to eat. Thanks for your help.

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    Time, patience, proper temps and humidity, and letting her be for a couple weeks are a good place to start.

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    Give her two weeks with no handling except for husbandry. Then put a small live rat IN her enclosure. Do not put her in a separate container for feedings.
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    Re: Need help to get BP back on track

    Quote Originally Posted by Slim View Post
    Give her two weeks with no handling except for husbandry. Then put a small live rat IN her enclosure. Do not put her in a separate container for feedings.
    Are you saying to feed her in her enclosure only this one time, or always feed her in her enclosure? I also worry about putting it in her enclosure because she doesn't wake up until it's dark. Do you think it matters much what time I drop it in (I would watch to make sure the rat doesn't hurt her)?

    Do you think I should try a mouse or stick with rats?
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    Always feed her in the place she feels the safest, her enclosure.

    Don't worry about it being dark. She can see/sense/smell/locate a rat in the dark 100 times better than we can.

    If she'll eat rats, there's not much sense in giving her mice.
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    I feed my bp about 9:30pm. When I first started feeding him, I turned off most of the lights in the room, and left a light on outside the room that allowed just enough light for me to see what was going on. Once he was back into the routine of eating, though, he no longer cared if the lights were on.
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    Re: Need help to get BP back on track

    I'm still kinda new to owning a ball python. But when I feed, I go and buy the live rat around 4 or 5 in the afternoon. Put it in a plastic container and then around 830 I hold my BP for a bit, and take some of the bigger stuff out of his cage due to the first feeding for him going a bit wonky. I put him at one end and a few minutes later I put the rat at the other end. He's a strong eater so he notices it pretty quick.
    If your snake was used to eating live rats, feed it live rats. Normally they don't like switching between mice, rats and F/T. If the snake doesn't take the rat after maybe 10 minutes, Take the rat out. I'm not sure about trying again later in the same day, but everything I've seen says to try again the next week, (5-7 days later).
    Goodluck with your new snakey. Just relax and have patience. It's hard, but definitely worth it.

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    Re: Need help to get BP back on track

    Well I appreciate everyone's response. It sounds like the consensus is to wait 2 weeks, do not handle her during that time, and then drop a small rat into her enclosure during the evening (I'm assuming the rat will 'wake her' when I put it in if she's in her hide). I will also take the advice of removing her water dish and other obstacles to give her some room. I'll reply in 2 weeks to let you know how it went. Thanks!

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    Re: Need help to get BP back on track

    Quote Originally Posted by BPGator View Post
    Well I appreciate everyone's response. It sounds like the consensus is to wait 2 weeks, do not handle her during that time, and then drop a small rat into her enclosure during the evening (I'm assuming the rat will 'wake her' when I put it in if she's in her hide). I will also take the advice of removing her water dish and other obstacles to give her some room. I'll reply in 2 weeks to let you know how it went. Thanks!
    Also make sure her temps and humidity are correct. If she is too cold she won't eat.

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    Re: Need help to get BP back on track

    Yes, good point. I have a probe thermometer in her hide that reads between 87-92°F. I'm ordering a digital thermometer/hygrometer to measure the remainder of the enclosure. I currently have one of those cheap ones that came with the terrarium. It fluctuates between 75-80°F and 50-60%.

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