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    Bcc or bci

    I'm gonna post a picture all I really have to go off of us looks right now and size. My red tail is a female and about 6 months old and 3 feet. Please any clues? I'm gonna post a couple pics!

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    It is usually pretty easy to spot BCC vs BCI. Sometimes you can even spot specific locales.

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    Head shape, pattern and tail are the spots to look at and as Josh said, usually not too difficult to tell. Post up some pics.

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    Re: Bcc or bci



    This is my BCC

    2.0 Python brongersmai
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    1.0 Acrantophis dumerili
    1.0 Boa constrictor
    0.1 Heterodon nasiscus nasiscus
    0.0.1 Pantherophis guttatus

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    There are several things to look at as noted above.

    Without locality data you'll never be 100% certain as some people have crossed BCC and BCI and sell the young as BCC for more $$. Other snakes may not show "typical" traits that are common amongst the species.

    Then there are these:




    A boa displaying what a natural cross between BCC and BCI would look like according to Vincent Russo.

    This is a Barranquilla, Colombian BCI, and I've been told by very good sources that the breeder, Gus Rentfro was close to calling these BCC.

    There are boas from Venezuela, BCC and BCI that also stump some folks.

    That said GENERALLY, once you are able to see certain localities over and over you can develop an eye for making a good educated guess. This is not the same as scale counting obviously.

    To me, Going Postal's snake looks to have strong Suriname influence with the nice peaked saddles. BCC!

    THE COMPLETE BOA CONSTRICTOR By Vincent Russo really is a great resource for you if you are interested in "Whats what".

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    Re: Bcc or bci

    Quote Originally Posted by Gio View Post
    Without locality data you'll never be 100% certain as some people have crossed BCC and BCI and sell the young as BCC for more $$. Other snakes may not show "typical" traits that are common amongst the species.
    On the flip side, there are some that have crossed in order to intensify the colors of the BCi morphs, such as albinos and such for brighter reds and don't make it known that the crosses were done. I've seen statements 'it's a morph/designer boa anyways so it doesn't matter if it was crossed'. Some morphs are crosses and they made it known (like roswells) but years down the line, is that still common knowledge? The majority of hypos out there are locality crosses. It really comes down to trusting the breeder and doing research. Some people care and some don't care at all, it's up to what you like. I simply hope people are honest about it.

    With an unknown history, one can never really be sure.

    Get your pics up and we can try to give our guesses, most likely some form/locality of BCi since they are the most common in the hobby.
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    THANKS FOR THE LOADS OF INFORMATION. I'm doing all this on my iPhone and have been trying to figure out how I can possibly post an image for you guys to see. Any ideas how to post an image over mobile?

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    FYI I was questioning her genetics because some of her saddles have peaks but not all! If anything maybe a cross or just some saddles that appear BCC!?!?! But I'm definitely trying to post a picture!

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    Re: Bcc or bci

    Quote Originally Posted by AbsoluteApril View Post
    On the flip side, there are some that have crossed in order to intensify the colors of the BCi morphs, such as albinos and such for brighter reds and don't make it known that the crosses were done. I've seen statements 'it's a morph/designer boa anyways so it doesn't matter if it was crossed'. Some morphs are crosses and they made it known (like roswells) but years down the line, is that still common knowledge? The majority of hypos out there are locality crosses. It really comes down to trusting the breeder and doing research. Some people care and some don't care at all, it's up to what you like. I simply hope people are honest about it.

    With an unknown history, one can never really be sure.

    Get your pics up and we can try to give our guesses, most likely some form/locality of BCi since they are the most common in the hobby.


    Exactly what I'm thinking I got her from a very good Petco they loved her and hated to see her go and she was well fed and after searching and not finding a good looking baby I finally found her. I know the commercial stores reputation but that doesn't matter as long as I take the animal in and care for her and she's been off to at least a good start. But I said that to say idk her history or parents even. So a blood test you said would be the only way?

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    Bcc or bci

    Try using Tapatalk on your phone. Posting a pic is as easy pushing one button, then chose your picture.


    Elenore, Common BI
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    The one thing I found that you can count on about Balls is that they are consistent about their inconsistentcy.

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    Sundance, 2012
    2.0 Common BI Boas, Punch, 2005; Butch, age?
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    0.1 Olive (Aussie) Python, Olivia, 2017

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