2015 Clutch Morph ID Help Needed

[hotelvoodoo]

Hey all! So, we're into breeding and our last clutch of 2015 is finally ready for sale. Trouble is, we still aren't 100% sure of what they are.

The Mom is a Black Pewter Yellowbelly
The Sire is a Ghost Killer Queen Bee
I know they'll all be 100% het ghost, but some of them are big ? Especially the Yellowbelly gene, which I'm not particularly awesome at IDing.

HATCHLING#1 (MALE)




HATCHLING #2 (MALE)








HATCHLING #3 (FEMALE)






HATCHLING#4 (MALE)








HATCHLING #5 (FEMALE)






HATCHLING #6 (FEMALE)








HATCHLING #7 (FEMALE)








AND BONUS: Still trying to ID This Female Holdback
Mom is a Mojave and she was bred to our pinstripe male and our super fire male. The rest of the clutch were all from the pinstripe.





WITH HER MOJAVE SIBLINGS

[cristacake]

I can't help with IDing morphs but just wanted to say I love seeing all these pretty babies I love their reactions in the belly pics

[Asherah]

I'll give it a whack.
1:lesser pewter (top pic link is broken)
2:bee (i in general fail at identifying yb in spiders, so no help to you there)
3: Pewter yb
4: Pewter
5: Pastel yb
6:I think because of the head pattern I'm gonna go with killer queen on this and # 7

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[Ax01]

your bonus pix of the female holdback is a nice Mojave Fire. it's got some nice distorted side patterns esp. there on the tail.

[hotelvoodoo]

Still looking for help, guys! These are more than a little bit confusing, and since everyone shoots in different lighting, even picture comparison is difficult.

[Slowcountry Balls]

A couple of thoughts:

1 - Post pictures of the parents. It can help to know what the parents look like
2 - Post group shots of like animals (Hatchling 2, Hatchling 6, and Hatchling 7 in one group shot, and Hatchling 3 and Hatchling 4 in another group shot). Be sure to tell us which hatchling is which in the group shot
3 - Could the mother be het Hypo? Some of these animals are very light and if the mother was het Hypo and some of these babies are visual Hypos, that could play into this too. You might want to check what the pairing was that produced the mother. Also, I have noticed at times that het Hypo will lighten certain combinations up.
4 - Contact Colin Weaver (http://ballpythonbreeder.com/contact/). He has produced some animals with a lot of these genes (Black Pastel, Lesser, Yellowbelly, and Hypo)

All that being said, here is what I see:
Hatchling 1 - Super Pastel Lesser Yellowbelly
Hatchling 2 - Super Pastel Spider
Hatchling 3 - Pastel Black Pastel Yellowbelly
Hatchling 4 - Pastel Black Pastel
Hatchling 5 - Pastel Yellowbelly
Hatchling 6 - Super Pastel Spider Yellowbelly
Hatchling 7 - Super Pastel Spider Yellowbelly

These are my best guesses and I could be off on some. I tried to list what I think is in each hatchling for sure. I know that Hatchling 1 is more than a Super Pastel Lesser, and I don't see Black Pastel, so I am guessing Yellowbelly. Hatchling 1 is one of the babies that makes me wonder if mom is het for Hypo. For Hatchlings 2, 6, and 7, Yellowbelly with Spider can be very tricky. Hatchling 2 looks really good for a Super Pastel Spider, so he might have Yellowbelly. However, Hatchlings 6 and 7 seem to be lighter than Hatchling 2, so that is why I labeled them as Super Pastel Spider Yellowbelly. These three also beg the question of whether or not mom is het for Hypo. If mom is het for Hypo, then Hatchling 2 might be a Super Pastel Spider Yellowbelly and Hatchlings 6 and 7 might be Super Pastel Spider Yellowbelly Hypo. I am pretty confident in my identifications of Hatchlings 3, 4, and 5.

As for your bonus holdback, Fire Mojave. The color is lighter than her Mojave siblings, and like Ax01 said, the distorted alien heads are a big clue too.

[Albert Clark]

I agree with Asherah on the pastel yb. That one is pretty clear . The holdback as a mojave fire that Ax pointed out. The others I don't know. They all are winners though in their appearance. Congrats.

[Andybill]

This is what I see but Im no expert I have not produced any YB stuff yet I just look at a lot of pictures lol:
1- Lesser Black Pewter
2- Bumblebee YB
3- Black Pewter YB
4- Black Pewter
5- Pastel YB
6 and 7- Killerbee YB
And a fire mojo

They all look really nice! Congrats