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    Rules of allowing snakes to Roam

    Hello Everyone.

    I am curious what is everyones take on letting your BP Pet roam around a room, or house?

    If I am chilling on xbox or something, am I cool to let my BP roam - obviously when older. But my house is victorian, and not the best at keeping heat.

    Again just curious. I wouldnt let my snake roam freely, only maybe in the room im in.
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    If you are gaming, I would say no. You have to be paying attention, and I know when the health gets down to about 20, there is nothing else in the room, right?

    I would keep in mind how fast snakes can move when they want to, and how quickly they can disappear before you know it.

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    I knew it was relevent to the situation and why i asked . My partners main concern was about a snake living in a vivarium its whole life, with minimul handeling is not fair on the snake, but I have showed her relentlessly about How BP are ok with chilling and I will be handeling alot.

    I am just curious of the boundries as far as a roaming snake goes. Thanks for the heads up! and I guess it is commensense, like you said below 20% health...
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    You may want to explain to your partner that what they consider roaming and exercise, can be pretty stressful to the snake. Roaming tends to evolve open areas in the middle of a room. All of which goes against a BP's natural instinct to hide from predators and wait to ambush prey.

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    Re: Rules of allowing snakes to Roam

    I would say stay away from unsupervised roaming. Like stated they can move fast and squeeze into pretty much anything. An old victorian would have tons of nooks and crannys to move into and a snake lodged in a small crack or hole is not going to be fun for either of you. Lol and like stated before at 20% health the house could be burning down and your eyes are still gonna be glued to the tv
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    Gaming? No.

    I hang out with mine while making coffee, or sitting at the computer watching videos (lately, fish and aquaponics DIY vids). The corn "roams" with me while I'm in the kitchen, and I've even stepped outside with him for the dogs, but he hangs on very well. Other times, he curls up inside a sleeve. The tiny kings stay in one hand. These sessions are daily, but brief. Maybe 15 min max. My main focus is on them while they are out.

    Mostly, I make sure I know at all times where the main part of the body is for a firm grasp, and re-direction incase the snake starts to wander.

    I live in an old house too. Way too many escape opportunities here. They would be hopelessly lost fast.
    Just don't think snakes (esp. the reclusive BP) benefit from unsupervised roaming.
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    I can't find the post, but somewhere on Tumblr was a (very sad) post about a tegu, I believe it was, whose owner had let it roam around the house very often. To the owner's dismay, vet results showed a lot of long-term damage to the body from a lack of proper humidity as well as some other things. It was an eye-opener to me because I wasn't aware of how much humidity affects reptile health INternally, not just externally (ie: skin health and shedding process). Obviously it's not completely analogous because lizards are different than snakes, but in my mind that makes it even more apparent that BPs should stay inside- tegus don't live in burrows to my knowledge.

    So if you can find that post somehow or explain the importance of them being in their controlled environments, as well as the fact that they evolved over millions of years to be very sedentary animals that purposely spend their lives in small, insulated burrows and termite mounds, maybe your partner will understand a little bit better why your BP is happier, healthier, and safer in her enclosure more often than not.

    I explained that post to my brother, who lies on the extreme end of the spectrum regarding pet owning, saying that no pets should be held captive other than dogs, and even he had to agree that it makes sense for certain reptiles like these, a sheltered and sedentary lifestyle benefits the animal more than having free range of a house.

    I would try to find the post but I'm about to head off to class. If I have time today, I will find it and link it here.
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    Re: Rules of allowing snakes to Roam

    I have a "snake blanket", just an old sheet that I only use for the snake. Once a week, I spread out the sheet and set up some rocks, some thick branches, some boxes with holes cut in them, and hang an extra heat lamp over the "playground" area, just for some added warmth (keeps that area around 75-76*F). He can then crawl all over that for about 20 min, or until he curls up inside one of the boxes like he's done. Some days he's really active, some days, he does not seem interested in exploring. I sit on the floor with him the whole time and make sure that he does not get into trouble. Most nights (except for the two after eating) I take him out and hold him, let him curl up on my neck and such while watching tv, but only for 10 to 15 min.

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    The only snakes I trust with leaving them out unattended for hours are my 2 BCI girls. My big one will crawl up a shelf above the headboard of the bed and sit there for as long as I let her. My little BCI girl likes to sit with me or if I leave her alone, she will curl up between the pillows on the bed and sleep. My BP girl though is a terror and LOVES to explore. I left her alone for about 2 mins and when I came back, she was on the floor heading for the computer table lol. Anything I put her on, she will make it to the floor and periscope and explore. And like another person said, you would be surprised how fast a determined snake can move.

    Bottom line is unless you know the snake very well, I would watch it until you learn the snake. Then adjust as necessary.
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    Re: Rules of allowing snakes to Roam

    Quote Originally Posted by cristacake View Post
    I can't find the post, but somewhere on Tumblr was a (very sad) post about a tegu, I believe it was, whose owner had let it roam around the house very often. To the owner's dismay, vet results showed a lot of long-term damage to the body from a lack of proper humidity as well as some other things. It was an eye-opener to me because I wasn't aware of how much humidity affects reptile health INternally, not just externally (ie: skin health and shedding process). Obviously it's not completely analogous because lizards are different than snakes, but in my mind that makes it even more apparent that BPs should stay inside- tegus don't live in burrows to my knowledge.

    So if you can find that post somehow or explain the importance of them being in their controlled environments, as well as the fact that they evolved over millions of years to be very sedentary animals that purposely spend their lives in small, insulated burrows and termite mounds, maybe your partner will understand a little bit better why your BP is happier, healthier, and safer in her enclosure more often than not.

    I explained that post to my brother, who lies on the extreme end of the spectrum regarding pet owning, saying that no pets should be held captive other than dogs, and even he had to agree that it makes sense for certain reptiles like these, a sheltered and sedentary lifestyle benefits the animal more than having free range of a house.

    I would try to find the post but I'm about to head off to class. If I have time today, I will find it and link it here.
    I would be interested in seeing this post. Not doubting but as long as the animal has access to clean water all the time and isn't left out for 18 hours a day 7 days a week in winter style dry air, I don't see how a couple hours every 2-3 days would adversely affect the health of a reptile that much. I used to have a Nile Monitor which I got as a baby and she was puppy dog tame. I would let her roam around my apt for about 3 hours a night after I came home and she was fine.

    Now this is strictly from a humidity standpoint. I'm not accounting for if your animal stresses from coming out or stuff. I know both my BCIs LOVE to come out and usually the minute I open the door on my big girls cage, she is ready to climb on me or just hangs out looking out the front of her cage or hanging there staring at the floor lol.
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