advice on what to breed these girls to?

[StillBP]

Hello everyone

I have 4 captive hatched sisters that are now old enough and large enough to breed them if i can get my hands on the right males

just looking for some advice on what to go with


here are a few pic's of the girls
girl #1 weight 1374g

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girl#2 is 1277 grams
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girl#3 is 1298g
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and girl #4 is 1564g
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This last pic is my only male who is old enough to breed atm but i am willing to buy something for these girls if needed
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[h00blah]

It's impossible to suggest morphs. Everyone likes different things. What do you like??? Start there.

[Eric Alan]

Are these your only animals that are ready? Why not pair them with the male you have right now? Wasn't that your plan all along?

[Tsanford]

Pick your target morph you wish to make and work backwards!

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[StillBP]

Are these your only animals that are ready? Why not pair them with the male you have right now? Wasn't that your plan all along?

not realy, I only have that male cause I got a great deal on him. My g/f likes the high contrast albino's, me like them all And no these are the only animals that I do not have a plan for my only other girl that is ready is a ghi and she is going to a pastel blade clown. Just not sure what to do with normals.
I only have them cause they were $80.00 for all 4 of them and I thought why not.

[Eric Alan]

not realy, I only have that male cause I got a great deal on him. My g/f likes the high contrast albino's, me like them all And no these are the only animals that I do not have a plan for my only other girl that is ready is a ghi and she is going to a pastel blade clown. Just not sure what to do with normals.
I only have them cause they were $80.00 for all 4 of them and I thought why not.

It sounds to me like so far you've only been picking ball pythons because they have been cheap. If you intend to breed these animals, I'd strongly suggest that you start by figuring out what you like about ball pythons besides cheap prices and go from there. As Tsanford said, begin with the end result in mind.

[StillBP]

It sounds to me like so far you've only been picking ball pythons because they have been cheap. If you intend to breed these animals, I'd strongly suggest that you start by figuring out what you like about ball pythons besides cheap prices and go from there. As Tsanford said, begin with the end result in mind.

Did you miss me say I have a pastel blade clown? How is that cheap?? He is just 130 grams or so and will not breed this year
I bought these four as they were a year old and captive hatched from a wild caught gravid female and I knew the seller personaly. The fact that they were cheap is a added bonus. Under normal circumstances I would not have bought a normal, the price is why I did buy them as normals . Tho it was ultimatly the reason that I did buy them.
Also I never said the jigsaw was cheap, I said I got a good deal on him he was still more than all four of these normals put together X2 and mojave is one of my fav codom morphs

What I want these girls will not help me with which is why I was asking what people think would make good matches. I breed pied and clown and ghi but none of them are going to go this year. My ghi would but the male I want to breed her to will not and I dont want her to not go when he is ready so she will wait a year for him. the snake I want to breed is a super pastel super ghi clown and I hope to have one in the next 3 years, tho I will be at the mercy of the genetic gods for that one

[StillBP]

Now as for pairing them to the jigsaw, I most likely will do that unless someone thinks of a better idea. Which again is why I posted this. Sometimes it is better to see what different people think of a idea instead of running ahead with your own.

[Eric Alan]

I hear what you're saying - I really do. I in no way meant to offend you by insinuating that you were solely financially motivated in your decisions. My only point is that adding animals to your collection that you intend to breed (regardless of the cost), but don't have an end-game in mind for right out of the gate, doesn't make any sense. Personally, I'd love to have at least one of those nice, clean girls in my collection - even normals can have a tremendous effect on the offspring they produce and I like bright and clean animals.

What you are ultimately asking is what we would breed normal females to. We would breed normal females to animals we love ourselves, as the possibility to improve the genetic diversity in the offspring produced doesn't exist. Basically, you just end up with more of the same. A "better idea" for you from us is 100% subjective. My advice? Browse through any one of the "favorite morphs" threads and see what kinds of things consistently rise to the top. If you are a fan of those morphs as well, then there's your answer. The other way to go about it is to spend some time really looking at your normal girls and think about how their patterns would enhance the look of other existing morphs. If you have a clean normal, think clean morph pairings. If you have a busier normal, think busier morph pairings.

I don't mean to be all "bigger picture" on you and all. That's just where I naturally tend to gravitate when these kinds of questions come up. In the end, it all comes down to what you want to see in your own tubs when you're in there cleaning snake poop. If you don't like the animals you choose, you're certainly not going to like cleaning up after them!

[StillBP]

Well in truth, like I said, I will most likely pair them to the jigsaw. I truly love his full stripe and he has great color.
I want to get a high contrast albino male, or a black pastel albino, as their colors pop, for my g/f but cant seam to find one that is 600-800 grams. If I did one or two would go to him. but I would like to see that blushed semi-banded girl in photo #2 go to something special. I just cant seam to see what yet. My first thought was breed her to a enchi but I am not sure that is the right path for her. Maybe this guy will do. He will be real close to breeding size I might try him. He is a 100% het pied. He was out of a huffman x pied pairing and is my fav snake in my whole collection. The only problem is I dont know if he will make size and I realy didnt want to end up with a bunch of normal 50% het pied.
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