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    What else in this queen bees?



    We know they are queen bees but so far many have agreed they are not a normal queen bee. Apparently the mother was part of a clutch which included phantoms but I've been told that a phantom expert doesn't think it's phantom in there. Anyone with any idea what the unknown gene could be?

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    What was the pairing?

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    Re: What else in this queen bees?

    It's a lesser bee male to a female pastel. The female was born with phantoms in the same clutch

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    It would be immediately obvious if they had phantom, as lesser phantoms are a white snake. Besides, phantom isn't recessive; the female either is or is not, it doesn't matter what her clutch mates were. The top snake actually just looks like a lesser bee to me, and the bottom looks like a nice queen though the dorsal stripe throws me off some.

    My guesses, anyway.

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    The problem is the Phantom is a codom and I cant find a picture os what the 4 gene would look like

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    same for me , the first one look like a spider lesser, but the second one is a queenbee + .... so clean and colors are richer than a queenbee
    1.0 superstripe, killerbee, OD spider fire, black pastel YB, black specter, pastel dinker, spider dinker, banana, banana cinnamon, enchi fire OD, fire dream bee het. russo, pastel superstripe, 2.0 firefly dream YB.

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    Easy, If they had phantom they'd both be white snakes.
    One lesserbee, one queenbee, and I agree there's something else in there, but it isn't another BEL complex gene ...
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