What can I breed my male albino to?

[MalachiJ]

I am clueless when it comes to the genetics of these snakes, I know that albino is recessive. Is there even anything that I can breed it to to produce something other than another albino? I plan on getting a piebald soon either way, would that produce anything? Thanks for the help.

[JoshSloane]

With recessive genes you would need to breed the albino to a het albino female to produce 50% albinos, and 50% het albinos. If you bred the albino to a piebald you would get 100% of the offspring as double het for both albino and piebald.

[Mustang5]

A pied and an albino would make 100% double hets. Meaning they are normals but carrying the genes for both albino and pied. So if you breed two siblings together you would have a chance at albino pieds.

[ajmreptiles]

Double recessives are a long but rewarding project in end with beautiful animals. If you were to breed an albino to a piebald you would produce all normal babies that are double het for both, then you raise them up and you can breed the siblings to each other and then each egg will have a 1/16 chance to be an albino pied

[MalachiJ]

Thanks guys, I think I have a project on my hands now . I'm not a breeder but think it would make for a happier snake. I mean honestly, if you never got any, would you be happy? Hahaha. Breeding siblings doesn't cause problems?


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[JoshSloane]

Haha. Breeding your own double recessive clutch is going to take at least 3-5 years at the very minimum. If you want to dip your toes into breeding world, go grab a het albino female. They can be had for pretty reasonable cost. But honestly, breeding is not exactly "fun" for the snakes. It is super stressful on them, and YOU. Think about this for a while before getting into this.

[MalachiJ]

My snake is a juvenile. I have a while. The piebald I want is still in the incubater. I'm not trying to dip my toes into breeding, I'm going to breed my personal pet snakes? How does breeding stress out a snake? Source?


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[JoshSloane]

Right. What I am saying is that there is a lot to think about before breeding, rather than just seeing it as a "project." You are going to potentially be bringing living beings into the world, and need to know how you are going to care for them, find them homes, deal with sick ones etc. Breeding in reptiles is not a fun activity like with humans. Both males and females undergo physiological changes during breeding season when in contact with one another. Both tend to go off feed, and can get aggressive. Complications (egg binding etc) during the process can harm or even result in death for the female in rare cases. What happens if you get a clutch with kinked spines? How will you euthanize them? Not to mention the enormous cost of breeding even one pair. Lots to think about.

Im just saying that breeding any animal needs to be undertaken responsibly, and with TONS of research. No offense, but from your previous posts you definitely need to educate yourself on mendelian genetics, BP husbandry and breeding before you continue. You cant just slap the snakes together and hope for the best.

[enginee837]

Breeding is stressful in the sense that the typically do not eat during the process which means you have to get them to a healthy weight to handle breeding then after the process is over you have to get them back up again. Much less of a big deal for males usually but for females it can be hard on them.

I am new to the bp scene but I bred gtps about ten years ago along with others. Some species are less affected by it such as african house snakes which I just left together all the time. They ate just fine and seemed to know when they were Ok to breed. They are one of the most prolific species of snake in the world for a reason. They are inexpensive well mannered and hardy. An excellent choice when you want to learn the process so you don't loose a bunch of eggs due to inexperienced incubating practices.

As far as the genetics, I am new to that. Previously I only bred normals, gtps were valuable enough alone at the time. There are some great calculators that will tell you what you will get by breeding certain morphs together. If I get time (and my pc) I will post links to them for you.

As for breeding siblings, not sure of the ramifications of doing that with snakes, I never did I because I had seen the issues it caused with other species. Maybe someone more knowledgeable than me on that can chime in.

[MalachiJ]

Right. What I am saying is that there is a lot to think about before breeding, rather than just seeing it as a "project." You are going to potentially be bringing living beings into the world, and need to know how you are going to care for them, find them homes, deal with sick ones etc. Breeding in reptiles is not a fun activity like with humans. Both males and females undergo physiological changes during breeding season when in contact with one another. Both tend to go off feed, and can get aggressive. Complications (egg binding etc) during the process can harm or even result in death for the female in rare cases. What happens if you get a clutch with kinked spines? How will you euthanize them? Not to mention the enormous cost of breeding even one pair. Lots to think about.

Im just saying that breeding any animal needs to be undertaken responsibly, and with TONS of research. No offense, but from your previous posts you definitely need to educate yourself on mendelian genetics, BP husbandry and breeding before you continue. You cant just slap the snakes together and hope for the best.

I was just asking what I could breed him to.... Have a few years to research, I think that's plenty. You don't need to know genetics to breed a snake. You're saying that it's more fun and less stressful to have a baby than breed a snake? Who is this guy? Hahahaha


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