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    Hypo vs. Orange ghost?

    I know these two genes have a similar effect, but which do you consider to be the better "hypo" gene? Which holds color and combines with other genes better?

    I'm considering adding some hypo / OG combos to my collection, but have only ever seen a hypo enchi in person, so I don't have anything to compare it with and I have never seen adult examples of either.

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    They're the same thing. "Hypo" is short for hypomelanistic, which is a reduction of the dark pigment. "Orange ghost" is just a nickname for one of the types of hypo expressed in ball pythons. Orange ghost is, by far, the most common form of hypo in balls. So you can't say that one is better than the other, unless you're picking out another specific type of hypo, such as green ghost.

    99% chance that the "hypo enchi" you mention is exactly the same thing as an "orange ghost enchi". Same gene, same morph, different ways of referring to it.
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    In hypos I look for color tints as babies vs ones with just a washed look, imo they grow up to be the better looking animals.

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    Hypo / Orange Ghost same thing different line

    Here is an Hypo Enchi (adult female) Bell Line

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    Same hypo/OG

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    Thanks guys! I knew that OG was a form of hypo, but wasn't sure what other type the generically called "hypo" that I saw at the show was.

    So basically, it doesn't really matter what line of hypo I'm looking at (they are comparable), I just need to look for more color as a baby, which will translate into more color as an adult? Are the hypo lines compatible or do I need to breed a specific line to itself to get hypo offspring (i.e. you don't mix OG and Green ghost)?

    Thanks again for your help!
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    Does orange ghost vs hypo matter when it comes to producing mimosas? Or is it simply the combo that makes that nice orange color?
    "Your absence has gone through me like thread through a needle. Everything I do is stitched with its color."

    -W.S. Merwin

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    Re: Hypo vs. Orange ghost?

    Quote Originally Posted by artgecko View Post
    Thanks guys! I knew that OG was a form of hypo, but wasn't sure what other type the generically called "hypo" that I saw at the show was.

    So basically, it doesn't really matter what line of hypo I'm looking at (they are comparable), I just need to look for more color as a baby, which will translate into more color as an adult? Are the hypo lines compatible or do I need to breed a specific line to itself to get hypo offspring (i.e. you don't mix OG and Green ghost)?

    Thanks again for your help!
    Ahhhh ghost/hypo compatibility. The subject that will give you a migraine lol. There are so many lines out there it isn't funny. Hypo, ghost, orange, butterscotch, green, blue, citrus, desert, g1, etc.... Some are compatible and some are not. Let's get the easy one out of the way, desert is only compatible with desert. G1 is not compatiable with anything but g1. I know little about blue ghost. Citrus is or isn't depending on who you talk to. The big problem is import ghosts. They label them as ghost, hypo, orange, etc... and just sell them as a certain ghost without even knowing if they are compatible. Best thing I can recommend is if you see a snake you like do research to find out what line it is and what it is compatible with.
    Ron

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    Here is a quick comparison shot of one hypo with color and one that is just washed. Both hypos are the exact same gene, they even have the same grandpa. Variation is just from selectively breeding. Colored one I tried to produce, the washed one came from a female I was unaware was het hypo at the time, but it was a nice surprise

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    Re: Hypo vs. Orange ghost?

    Quote Originally Posted by bondo View Post
    Ahhhh ghost/hypo compatibility. The subject that will give you a migraine lol. There are so many lines out there it isn't funny. Hypo, ghost, orange, butterscotch, green, blue, citrus, desert, g1, etc.... Some are compatible and some are not. Let's get the easy one out of the way, desert is only compatible with desert. G1 is not compatiable with anything but g1. I know little about blue ghost. Citrus is or isn't depending on who you talk to. The big problem is import ghosts. They label them as ghost, hypo, orange, etc... and just sell them as a certain ghost without even knowing if they are compatible. Best thing I can recommend is if you see a snake you like do research to find out what line it is and what it is compatible with.
    Desert Ghost and Hypo or Orange ghost are not different lines they are two different mutations

    The most commonly worked with lines of Hypo (Bell, Orange Ghost, Butterscotch, Hypo) are all compatible, other lines are not and very few people work with them.
    Deborah Stewart


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