Question on the Ghost gene

[Jcash34]

I recently purchased a new male ball python. I bought it as a pastel banana. I got a very good deal on a stunning animal. the father banana was bred a het ghost female pastel and surprised breeder with several ghost babies. the male I purchased looks far lighter and cleaner than the other pastel bananas and the difference is instantly noticeable. It very much looks like it has the ghost gene. Is there any way to tell weather it is ghost or a case of het ghost being visual(which I have heard of but unsure of the legitimacy). I also was told if the sheds have no pattern on them then it is a full ghost not het(again unsure of the truth). That said, the sheds have no pattern at all on them. totally uniformly clear-ish. Any knowledge/info is appreciated.

[Dave Green]

I've hatched a handful of banana ghosts and kept one that is at least six months old. They are obviously brighter but the easiest way to tell is that they don't get the black specks. The one I kept has a few very dull grey specks but that's it.

[BigJay]

But Dave, I have one of your Banana Ghosts and hes got a fair amount of speckles ;o

[PitOnTheProwl]

Wouldnt they still shed clear?

[Jcash34]

I've hatched a handful of banana ghosts and kept one that is at least six months old. They are obviously brighter but the easiest way to tell is that they don't get the black specks. The one I kept has a few very dull grey specks but that's it.

It has few, dull speckles. I just put couple pictures up. here's the link. http://ball-pythons.net/gallery//sho...mageuser=26431

[Dave Green]

But Dave, I have one of your Banana Ghosts and hes got a fair amount of speckles ;o

That's a ghost, you can tell by the dull specks. I kept a ghost banana spider, I should have made that clear. The spider ghost banana only has a few specks so far.

It has few, dull speckles. I just put couple pictures up. here's the link. http://ball-pythons.net/gallery//sho...mageuser=26431

Sorry, that doesn't look ghost to me, you can see that the specks are black.

[Jcash34]

Sorry, that doesn't look ghost to me, you can see that the specks are black.

Well hopefully you are wrong lol. I appreciate your input and expertise. Compared to its siblings there was a huge difference. I am planning on picking up a pair of proven het ghost normal females and finding out that way. Worst case is pastels and bananas so not would be lost

[Dave Green]

Well hopefully you are wrong lol. I appreciate your input and expertise. Compared to its siblings there was a huge difference. I am planning on picking up a pair of proven het ghost normal females and finding out that way. Worst case is pastels and bananas so not would be lost

I've seen het ghost stuff look faded and he has a 50% chance of being het ghost so you may get lucky. You should get ghost females rather than hets so worst case scenario all the babies will be het ghost instead of poss. hets.

[Tsanford]

I dunno if this has already been said, But if it was a Male Banana male and Female Pastel het Ghost, then any babies including the one you got, would be HET for Ghost, if that. But no way possible of you having a ghost. Also I see no credibility in the breeder hatching out several ghosts in that clutch unless the male banana was also het for ghost?

Percent	Fraction	Morph
12.5%	1/8	Normal
12.5%	1/8	Het. Ghost
12.5%	1/8	Pastel
12.5%	1/8	Pastel Het. Ghost
12.5%	1/8	Banana Ball
12.5%	1/8	Banana Ball Het. Ghost
12.5%	1/8	Banana Pastel
12.5%	1/8	Banana Pastel Het. Ghost

Genetic Wizard 3.0 calculations by

[Stewart_Reptiles]

Compared to its siblings there was a huge difference.

Keep in mind that with CG and or Banana and their combos there is variability when it comes to their coloration even in the same clutch.