Double Het Pied, Albino?

[Alan664]

I bought this snake as a double het pied albino. I know that het albino is hard to tell but is it het pied? And does anyone know how to tell of a het albino? Any markings for het albino?
Thanks.



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[Alan664]

The line on the sides almost go to her head but they don't.


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[Albert Clark]

The line on the sides almost go to her head but they don't.


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Not really a authority on morphs but it looks like he has het pied markers. However I thought the markers were appreciated at the lower third including the tail. What you can do is ask the person you brought him from to show you pics of the parents. The other thing is to breed him and see if he proves out. Also, does he have pics of the hatched out clutch. If he wants to be truthful he should have documentation to support his claims. The albino identifying marks I am not sure if there are any. Documentation and pics go a long way to me. Good luck. Stay in peace and not pieces. Don't forget to donate to USARK.

[Asherah]

I would say if you bought him from a trustworthy and reputable breeder that he is what he was advertised as. The markers on him for pied are very good. Supposedly het Albino's have more white/lighter in color than your average bp. However no "het marker" is 100% so purchase from a reliable source is your best bet.

However for reference I will toss in a picture of my 100% dh albino pied boy purchased this year. He is from a pied het albino x Albino breeding and from a very good local breeder.

[Stewart_Reptiles]

Those are strong het pied markers, and I have no doubt it will prove out as a het pied.

Now I will add this, the best guarantee in the world is to buy from a reputable breeder when it comes to hets.

[Running Elk]

I thought heterozygous meant the genotype existed but the phenotype didn't show?

So there are markers to predict het traits?

Can some one explain to me the pied het marker then? I have a normal poss het pied, and it'd be cool to know more than that about her.

[Albert Clark]

Thanks to Asherah for the albino identifying criteria. I was leaning towards the lighter color / more white but honestly was not sure. Peace.

[Albert Clark]

I thought heterozygous meant the genotype existed but the phenotype didn't show?

So there are markers to predict het traits?

Can some one explain to me the pied het marker then? I have a normal poss het pied, and it'd be cool to know more than that about her.

In a nutshell, a normal bp that is het for pied will present with dark black railroad track markings on the ventrolateral aspects of the lower third body to the tail. They usually have a bit more white surrounding the blotched brown areas laterally. Amount of white can vary from encircling to a blushed appearance.

[Eric Alan]

I thought heterozygous meant the genotype existed but the phenotype didn't show?

That is correct for truly recessive traits.

So there are markers to predict het traits?

Therein lies the catch. Some of the recessive genes in this hobby likely aren't truly recessive at all (by the letter of the definition), otherwise they wouldn't show the markers that we're referring to. Aren't genetics fun?

[Running Elk]

That is correct for truly recessive traits.

Therein lies the catch. Some of the recessive genes in this hobby likely aren't truly recessive at all (by the letter of the definition), otherwise they wouldn't show the markers that we're referring to. Aren't genetics fun?

So I'm guessing that albinism and piebaldism aren't true recessive genes in balls?

I might have to post some pictures later. Here is to hoping my normal lady is a het for pied. That would help me tremendously, because as of now she's just a pet.