Pets or wild animals?

[Joe balls]

When reading posts on this sight I seem to get the feeling there are two completely different ways of looking at these beautiful animals.
One is a almost clinical tending to the snakes needs to the letter and time scheduled to the minute in plain but very clean tubs only to come out for a meal so as to not stress. Like collecting baseball cards to be looked at and admired not touched
Two is more like a pet maybe in a decked out glass or plexi aquarium. Taking out the snake for handling and even going outside on a nice day getting to know its personality
i feel I'm a mix but maybe puts me out of both groups. I bought a pet store snake and all the zilla stuff I could find. After getting home doing more research I saw rack systems and thought that was a nice size so I could expand my collection so I have both now and 4 ball pythons from little guys to a full grown girl that give my food scale a err code on the screen. I like the ease of cleaning the tubs and it does exactly what it's supposed to. no water fountain or vines strictly function streamlined.
I like to handle my snakes often for a couple of reasons, with two young daughters the last thing I want is a strike and them be scared of snakes so to socialize them and also to exercise, I maybe way off base and get blasted for this but I let them explore if they want stretch and climb on things. I know in there tubs they can't get more vertical than the 8 or 10 inch tub.
Im not stupid and I expect I will be bit eventually and 50years of domestication will not erase millions of years of instinct but I do see a personality to these animals and even if it's only food associated love I'll take it

[Stewart_Reptiles]

50years of domestication

Takes a lot longer to domesticate an animal

[Joe balls]

Kinda exactly what I said but if you wanna make me look dumb thanks for your input

[Foxton]

Takes a lot longer to domesticate an animal

Depends on what kind of selection criteria is used. Foxes were domesticated in Russia in less than 50 years by being really selective in what ones were bred.

[HVani]

Any animal can bite domesticated or not.

But I don't consider an snake a domesticated animal. They are my pets but are still a wild animal IMO. I know they don't give two flips about me and can survive just fine without human help.

But I still care for them and enjoy handling them. They learn to tolerate us. Even some easy going wild snakes can be picked up and handled without much reaction. They quickly realize you aren't going to eat them then they are fine.

[Stewart_Reptiles]

Kinda exactly what I said but if you wanna make me look dumb thanks for your input

Seriously? If that is what I meant I would just say so believe me, you might want to stop putting words in people's mouth or interpret something where there is nothing to be interpreted.

[Eric Alan]

Why does there need to be a distinction between the two?

Snakes kept in racks with clean tubs and on-point husbandry doesn't indicate any less appreciation for these animals any more than having a full display setup with all the bells and whistles indicates more appreciation.

To use your analogy, I'm sure many card collectors would love to display every single one of their prized cards individually for the world to see. However, due to space constraints, many of them are stored on a shelf in 3-ring binders and taken out to show off whenever the moment arises. It certainly doesn't mean that the cards hold any less value to their collector.

[Joe balls]

If your post was not ment to be inflammatory it didn't need to be said at all. was it just an echo of my last statement? And your defensive post after was just another backhanded statement to make you feel good about yourself

grow up mod

[DVirginiana]

I think there's a big difference between a 'tame' animal and a domesticated animal. I used to have a pet possum that was pretty tame, and the way he acted reminds me of the way most snakes do; they're fine until something new or 'scary' happens, then they immediately revert back to acting on instinct where a cat or dog might look to you for help.

I do wonder how genetically different BPs generally are from their wild counterparts though. I know they're not TOO different, but it'd be interesting to know.

[ARBallMorphs]

Joe balls,

stop it mate.

I have been a while on this site and Deborah is one of those persons i found to be among the most helpful on this forum

I am sure she didnt meant any offence on her first post and she sure as hell was given a reason by your reply to her to defend her self in her second