Trade option

[alan12013]

Green tree python for a pastel het clown and a visual. Yea or nay?

[ElliotNess]

Visual clown? And % of Het?

I think it depends on the quality. Im not a fan of jumping to something cause its the cool thing. It should be something you want and how old/size.

[Mike41793]

Green tree python for a pastel het clown and a visual. Yea or nay?

Do you have pics of the bps? Quality is everything. I'm not sure on prices of gtps really though.

Visual clown? And % of Het?

I think it depends on the quality. Im not a fan of jumping to something cause its the cool thing. It should be something you want and how old/size.

Correct, Clown is the recessive gene so that would be the visual, not pastel. Also, when it just says "het clown" then it's assumed that the animal is 100% het for that trait.

[alan12013]

Well guys if the clown is anything like the pastel I will jump on this deal and I think you might agree. We are still negotiating and he might back out from offering me 2 snakes, if that's the case I will not get rid of my GTP for 1 ball! I'll spend the next 2-3 years learning while my GTP grows up and becomes breeder size and I think GTPs could give me an edge in the local breeding market at expos down the road if I keep him. I attached a pic of the pastel and to me this is what I call a lemon pastel regardless of who produced it. Amazing yellows and blushing, she will do amazing in my collection. I am a fan of the clowns actually so I would love to mix it with stuff in my collection now. I could even do candied clowns within the next 5 years or so The het should be 100 percent but I just assumed so I will have to ask him

[alan12013]

and the clown. Not the best but maybe a good start? I would essentially be picking these 2 animals up for a cost so low I really don't even want to mention.

[CORBIN911]

If you got both of those 100% worth it...

Even here in canada were GTPS are more expensive, its still worth.

Clown female is rougly 700-800$

and a Pastel het clown is 300-400$(if 100% het)


a GTP is rougly 500$ hatchling 800$ yearling and up.

It really all depends if YOU'D like to. In that case ALL trades would be worth it.

[Mike41793]

I don't care much for the clown girl but I'm picky. The pastel is nice and certainly looks het clown. It's not a lemon pastel unless it comes from a line of lemon pastel though. A convertible isn't a corvette just because it's a convertible. I'd personally probably keep the gtp but I don't think it would be a mistake to make that trade.

[alan12013]

Well I haven't heard back so now there is a possible trade for and Ivory (YB X YB) but I did write back about the Pastel. I agree that the Clown was not the quality that I want. I would probably spend a lot of time and money trying to use it as a base in breeding animals that I can really be proud of. Side tracking here for a moment but if I think the Corvette analogy would be more like "just because you built a Corvette using the exact same parts and used the exact same process doesn't necessarily mean you have the right to say you have a Corvette". In this case I'm not so sure it was a particular line of animal as much as it was the method to achieve the animal. Graziani and NERD were working with I assume to be the same gene animals around 97 and in 99 NERD created the first super proving it was an incomplete dominant or co-dom. From there I think he just used the right mix to get them to come out like that.

[Mike41793]

A pastel isn't a lemon pastel just because it's nice. It's about lineage. And like I said, het clown can play a part in the quality there.

[alan12013]

True about the het playing a part and that might just be the case with this one. I haven't seen enough Pastel het Clowns to really know how the het can tweak it but I do understand what it's suppose to do which is clean it up and brighten it up as well. Again might be the case with this one like you said. I hope I get it either way as I like it.