WHS Line Scaleless Heads!

[Brock Wagner]

http://www.whsreptiles.com/whs-line-...eads-are-here/

Here is something very exciting that Winston and me are working on. Go check out WHS line of Scaleless Heads!

Thanks
Brock

[bcr229]

Cool project! Have you noticed issues with these guys shedding?

[Pythonfriend]

this is an amazing update, i never heared about NERDs microscale morph.

the pictures are amazing.

i believed only Brian and Mike Wilbanks have it, and now you have them too, and i also hear that nerd is dinkering with something that may be similar or related.

i am pretty sure this means things will be moving forward faster, more world 1st morphs in fully scaleless, prices drop faster, more sales.

[Brock Wagner]

We are really looking forward to this project and plugging it into morphs. We feel that it opens the door to so many cool things. I really needed something like this to bring the fun and challenge back into ball python breeding. If you have any questions please ask. I think that I am going to start posting over here again and see how it goes! And to answer your question no we haven't had any shed issues with het SH's.

Thanks
Brock

[OhhWatALoser]

Wouldn't you want to breed a scaleless head to a micro before saying they seem to be in the same complex? Certain axanthic lines and hypo lines probably looked it also.

But it is great that there are more of this type of project coming out, I'm excited to work with it in 10 years or so lol.

[TessadasExotics]

Personally I think that all three are exactly the same "line". They are the same morph and should not be given different names.
Great project none the less!

[Pythonfriend]

i think the microscales (depending on how it turns out) may be just as interesting, but different from, the scaleless projects.

not scaleless, but a greatly increased number of scales, which are thinner, and it feels more like a scaleless, but it has scales, just lots of tiny ones. how awesome is that? but we have to see, i dont trust NERD with any information other than pictures until someone else verifies it, so for now my knowledge is limited to the pictures.

what i am mainly interested in is the increased resolution, which will give us a new look at morphs. many traits we see are pixelated to the resolution of the scales. to take the analogies too far, i say this is like switching from low definition to high definition.

so, please, and please respond to this, combine it ASAP with morphs where this added resolution might do the most awesome things. Calico (random white scales? what happens if there are no scales, random circular white dots?), Black pastel (high quality black pastel turns areas inside the alienheads and inside the dorsal pattern dark, often scale-by-scale), pinstripe (just thinking it may look awesome in scaleless), kingpin and jigsaw (quite SURE these WILL look awesome in scaleless). And maybe Leopard.

Just do stuff that tweaks the pattern first. i dont care much about a scaleless albino or scaleless hypo, i can imagine what these look like, but when i try to imagine a scaleless jigsaw, i cannot do it, and i suspect it will look more awesome than anyone expected.

One question for later, after you hatched some fully scaleless, will be how much the lack of directional heat sensing affects feeding, because unfortunately the structure of the heat pits gets replaced with something rather flat. another question for later is how the lack of scales, including the belly scales, affects their movement and their abilities to move.

[Pythonfriend]

Personally I think that all three are exactly the same "line". They are the same morph and should not be given different names.
Great project none the less!

i think for now it should be BHB-line scaleless head and scaleless, and WHS-line scaleless head and scaleless, because right now only 3 breeders on the planet seem to have it, and Mike Wilbanks has the BHB-line. If they later prove out to be the same, people will call them scaleless head and scaleless, but until then, differentiating between BHB-line and WHS-line makes sense. we do not know what issues they will have, and if both lines are really identical to the point of having the same issues, heck, there is not even a fully scaleless WHS-line specimen yet. as far as i know, there are only two scaleless BPs from proven genetic lines on the planet right now, and BHB has both.

[Brock Wagner]

I am not saying that Micro Scales and WHS line are compatible. Honestly we don't know yet. They could be but they might also not be. I am confident in saying that WHS line Scaleless Heads will produce a Scaleless super! I can't wait and to think of genes that we can now make Scaleless is just going to be awesome!

Thanks
Brock