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    Crazy Idea.... Is this cool or am I just crazy...

    So I was playing around with Pied Genes on the wizard today.... I have 2 het pieds I'm hoping to get some nice babies out of... Thats the easy part.... Here's the crazy idea (it probably has been done before/allready but i want opinions before I invest years into this)

    I plan on getting hold of a Mojave. Now.... Assuming my Het's will give me a pied, If I breed my Mojave to my Pied I should get Mojave's het for pied, normal het pieds, normals, and mojave's. Now say I pick out the Mojave's het for pied and they breed. In theory I could get a Blue Eyed Pied Lucy? Granted all the odds would have to be in my favor and I would have to be really good at picking out hets LOL.. Plus this is years down the road, but its good to have a plan/idea!
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    on paper, it's not too difficult to do but i think there's a reason why nobody is doing it.

    aside from the genetics, i'm thinking there's no difference between it and a regular leucistic. no spectacular color or pattern mutation to add any wow factor to this project.
    plus, it would be difficult to ID. if you get any all white snakes, how would you know which are pied and which are regular leucistic?
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    Re: Crazy Idea.... Is this cool or am I just crazy...

    It sounds interesting from a genetics perspective, but would you have to prove out each snake to be able to say it was a lucy pied and not just a lucy? That sounds like a massive hassle. I know upi can combine genes with albino (albino pieds are amazing) but does it work like that with the leucistic genes?
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    you breed a Mojave to a Pied, every normal is a Het Pied and every Mojave is a Het Pied. The Mojave Pied project has been done and not all that attractive of a cross.

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    Assuming you breed a mojave to a pied you would only get mojaves and normals all 100% het for pied so that eliminates the guess work. I think J.P. has the right idea on why it hasnt been heavily worked with.
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    Re: Crazy Idea.... Is this cool or am I just crazy...

    OK I didn't know if it would be cool. I love pieds and have been trying to find a good plan of attack for a pretty snake. Cinnamon pieds are nice. I have to do some research. May e I'll aim for a pewter pied

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    Re: Crazy Idea.... Is this cool or am I just crazy...

    Those are amazing bud. I have no intentions on going that pied crazy. I just really want a pied lol. If my hets don't prove out I'll end up buying one. In the 5th picture the white one that is stretched out with the grey head and spot. What is that? I really like how she looks

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    i'm a fan of pied projects myself. there's so many combos to choose from other than leucistics.
    spider pieds are pretty straightforward, and also have the potential for an -white pied snake (white wedding), which needs no guesswork/proving out when it comes to proper ID.

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    If you want to start a Pied project, you should start with a Pied and a het Pied morph. It's going to make things a lot easier and it's going to not only take the guess work out of the equation, it will also give you much faster results.

    I have a Pied project of my own. I have a Pastave het Pied girl and a Pied boy. I'm trying to go for a Pastave Pied. But that's not going to happen for at least two years.

    Hopefully I'll get this beautiful creature right here:

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