Candy vs Candino??

[j94712]

I don't understand how a candy is way more expensive than a candino. I thought candino is a double recessive of candy and albino. How can a single recessive animal be more expensive than a double recessive animal. And its not just a bit more expensive, it's like 4 to 5 times more expensive. A regular candy girl can be 5k and a candino girl is just around 1k. Am I missing something here? Please correct me if I get anything wrong. Just want to learn more about this morph!

[TessadasExotics]

Candy is its own simple recessive. A Candino is a mutt cross of a Candy and a normal Albino, as Candy and Toffee are both compatible with Albino. I sure wouldnt call it a double recessive. That is why a Candy is more expensive than a Candino. Candy to Candy you will get Candy. Candy to Albino gives you Candinos. After that who knows for sure.

[Pythonfriend]

candy to candino is like:

super gravel to highway,
super mystic to mystic potion,
super spark to puma,
toffee to toffino, (<-- this morph is probarbly identical to candy)
super vanilla to vanilla cream.

candino is genetically a "het candy het albino". just like a highway is a "gravel yellowbelly".

in this case, i have to add: you can differentiate between candy, candino and albino. "mutt" sounds so dirty, but its similar to a highway or puma or vanilla cream or mystic potion. when you breed candino to candino, you get 25% candy, 50% candino, and 25% albino. as hatchlings they look quite similar, but then they develop differently.

so candinos are cheaper, but they are not mutts, candinos can be very useful and can start a candy project, just like a highway can be useful for a super gravel project.

[CryHavoc17]

Its not a double recessive, its an allelic compound heterozygous. One copy of two different genes that sit on the same locus so they act like a homozygous.

Candys are more valuable because they have two copies of a fairly new and rare gene, a candino has one copy of a rare gene and one copy of a very common gene. Candinos are also significantly less valuable for breeding for combos or starting a candy project fron scratch. When you breed a candino all your offspring will be either het for candy OR het for albino. So you have to keep everything and prove it out, or guess which ones are carrying the more valuable candy gene.

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[Pythonfriend]

When you breed a candino all your offspring will be either het for candy OR het for albino. So you have to keep everything and prove it out, or guess which ones are carrying the more valuable candy gene.

sorry for quotemining, but ill take this piece and run with it.....

if you already have a large albino project running, this is not a problem. you would NEVER breed a candino to a normal, or to a het candy or to a het albino. you would always breed the candino to an albino. or maybe to another candino, or to a candy.

weird analogy: albino is the ocean, with its waves. candy and candino are the surfers on top. better analogy: imagine you have a lot of male and female ivorys, super yellowbellys. then its just like highway (mixed mutt YB gravel) and super gravel.

[j94712]

Ok, I did not know that candy is compatible with albino. That make perfect sense. But is candy compatible with lavender albino? Because I know that Lavender albino is not compatible with regular albino, meaning that when breeding a lavender albino to regular albino will result in double hets.

[T&C Exotics]

sorry for quotemining, but ill take this piece and run with it.....

if you already have a large albino project running, this is not a problem. you would NEVER breed a candino to a normal, or to a het candy or to a het albino. you would always breed the candino to an albino. or maybe to another candino, or to a candy.

weird analogy: albino is the ocean, with its waves. candy and candino are the surfers on top. better analogy: imagine you have a lot of male and female ivorys, super yellowbellys. then its just like highway (mixed mutt YB gravel) and super gravel.

So with this how would you go about getting say a candino bee or another combo? Or better yet how would you get a pied candino? You would need to produce the hets and hope you pair the right 2 together.

knowledge is earned not learned

[Pythonfriend]

So with this how would you go about getting say a candino bee or another combo? Or better yet how would you get a pied candino? You would need to produce the hets and hope you pair the right 2 together.

knowledge is earned not learned

i would heavily rely on albino combos that already exist, and use these as a vehicle to move the genes into pure candy. visual is king. albino pied to candy gives you a clutch of candino het pied. breed these to albino pied for candino pied, or breed them to each other for a slim chance of candy pied.

in the end, as a breeder, you always want pure candy with extra genes. and, except for the added difficulty that its recessive and the hets show nothing, its really like it is with super gravel and highway. candy, candino, and albino can be dfferentiated when they reach some age. and the best way to get any extra gene into candy is to have a strong albino project, and to work with visuals, and to carry it in using candino as a bridge.

[T&C Exotics]

i would heavily rely on albino combos that already exist, and use these as a vehicle to move the genes into pure candy. visual is king. albino pied to candy gives you a clutch of candino het pied. breed these to albino pied for candino pied, or breed them to each other for a slim chance of candy pied.

in the end, as a breeder, you always want pure candy with extra genes. and, except for the added difficulty that its recessive and the hets show nothing, its really like it is with super gravel and highway. candy, candino, and albino can be dfferentiated when they reach some age. and the best way to get any extra gene into candy is to have a strong albino project, and to work with visuals, and to carry it in using candino as a bridge.

Your logic can only work with an established collection. Oh and just point it out a candino het pied to candino het pied would give you the same odds of getting a candy pied as a dbl het to dbl het would. Slim odds yes but very possible.

knowledge is earned not learned

[Pythonfriend]

EDIT: albino, toffee, and candy are compatible. (toffee and candy are probarbly identical).

none of the above are compatible with: caramel albino, ultramel, crider, lavender albino.