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    "66% Het"

    I'm looking for a female pied and a female clown to go with the males I have but the females are a little out of my budget at the moment. I'm not really a gambling man so I'm leaning toward some visuals but I found a guy with some single gene 66% hets for a great price. They're both from 100% het parents.

    I understand the percentage is mathematic, I was just hoping to hear peoples experience with 66% hets.

    I'd hate to feed and raise them for a few years, go through breeding and incubation to find out I missed the het.

    Can I hear about your experience with 66% hets?

    Thanks!

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    Re: "66% Het"

    I'm sure when you get enough answers, you will find that 2/3 of people successfully proved them out while 1/3 did not.

    Quote Originally Posted by BigIan View Post
    I'd hate to feed and raise them for a few years, go through breeding and incubation to find out I missed the het.
    would suggest you do not get any possible hets then.

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    Re: "66% Het"

    Quote Originally Posted by OhhWatALoser View Post
    I'm sure when you get enough answers, you will find that 2/3 of people successfully proved them out while 1/3 did not..

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    Re: "66% Het"

    Generically pos hets are a "gamble". But from a reliable breeder they are sometimes also a great deal and a great way to get into a recessive project with a lower investment.

    I have produced a number of pos hets, both 50% and 66%, and found that the numbers don't lie, you win some, you lose some.

    That being said getting a pos het and proving it out is a VERY cool feeling!

    I would say getting codoms pos het for a recessive gene are a pretty good investment, even if they don't prove out, you still have a great female codom! The "normal" pos hets tho are less appealing if they don't prove out, but if they do you have a pretty great female.

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    Re: "66% Het"

    Quote Originally Posted by OhhWatALoser View Post
    I'm sure when you get enough answers, you will find that 2/3 of people successfully proved them out while 1/3 did not.



    would suggest you do not get any possible hets then.
    Lol

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    Re: "66% Het"

    Quote Originally Posted by OhhWatALoser View Post
    I'm sure when you get enough answers, you will find that 2/3 of people successfully proved them out while 1/3 did not.



    would suggest you do not get any possible hets then.
    perfect


    i would say: if you want to breed, the absolute minimum would be 100% het females. unless you deal with something extraordinarily expensive like sunglow. a good way to start with a recessive project that has come down in price, starting at a low level, would be a visual male and 100% het and/or 100% het + extra gene females. like, for example, a male pied and a female het pied and a female enchi het pied.

    with possible hets you also have the problem that people often manage to pick out the most likely hets from the clutch and sell the rest as possible hets. het pieds have markers, and het clowns sometimes also have them. weak markers only really work when you can see the entire clutch of hatchlings in person and compare them to one another in detail. when a clutch produced 4 possible 66% hets and the best two got picked out and you buy one of the remaining two, how much will it be worth?

    it makes sense when a breeder collaborates with another breeder, it makes sense to maybe prove out some possible hets you produced yourself, but on the open market, go for 100% hets and even for these make sure you buy 1st hand, not 2nd hand, and that your direct 1st hand source is a reputable, reliable breeder.
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    Eh I feel my ass answer should also include:

    it doesn't matter what people can tell you, you can have 100 people telling you that had success or you could have 100 people tell you they failed. There is still only 66% chance of success no matter what other people say their experience was, their experience in no way effects your chances. Buying possible hets, there is always that chance of failure, so if you really fear it that much, don't get them.

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    Re: "66% Het"

    You should get away with getting a 100% het Pied for a decent price. I think there's too much risk in investing in a 66% het. Just a thought.

    I got my Pastave 100% het Pied girl for $400. I did however get a visual Pied to breed her to. I guess it comes down to personal preference, time and patience.

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