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    My gf has a question

    My gf wants to know if u can breed a gtp with a ball? i told her u more than likely can't but she insists on getting others opinions. Thanks
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    Hopefully someone will chime in with the genetics of how it could work, but the likelihood of it occuring on its own is highly unlikely, because a BP and a GTP live two very different lifestyles-- BPs are non-arboreal, and GTPs are entirely so. If you put them together to try to get a lock, the best case scenario would be that they just sit and look at each other from opposite heights in the tank. (Worst case would involve injuries.)

    That being said, people seem to have attempted it successfully, with a cursory look at Google results.
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    http://www.ssnakess.com/forums/gener...e-hybrids.html - fourth pic down...


    and don't miss the scaleless puff adder further down...
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    I can't say it's been done, but Ball Python x Carpet Python crosses have been made, as have Carpet Python x Green Tree Python crosses, which leads me to extrapulate that, yes, it's possible. I hear hybridization requires a lot of trickery, though.

    Oh, look, late reply. xD
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    Re: My gf has a question

    Quote Originally Posted by sho220 View Post
    http://www.ssnakess.com/forums/gener...e-hybrids.html - fourth pic down...


    and don't miss the scaleless puff adder further down...
    Wow that does actually look kinda cool. Not that I'd condone it, just don't see the point, but neat to look at.
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    b) Geralt 1.0 Chocolate Sable Mojave pos. Trick ball, May 27th 2020

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    1.1 Oscar Cichlids (Rocky 1.0, hx2020, Red Fire, and Bubble 0.1, hx2019, Tiger), 1.1 Convict Cichlids (Hurley and Sloane), 0.1 Strawberry Peacock Cichlid (Comet), Two Plecos, Rubby the Rubbernose Pleco and Trinidad the common Pleco, 2.0 Upside Down Catfish (Poseidon, Neptune), One Red Parrot Cichlid (Firefly), 1.0 Betta Fish (Jenkins),
    2.2 Cherry Barbs ("The Worst"), 1.0 Electric Blue Acara (Goldeneye)

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    Re: My gf has a question

    Quote Originally Posted by Archimedes View Post
    Wow that does actually look kinda cool. Not that I'd condone it, just don't see the point, but neat to look at.
    Same here...neat looking but don't think I'd ever want or try to breed them...
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    in one quite old snakebytesTV episode a ball python x green tree python hybrid has been shown.

    definitively weird, because they behave and move so differently. different size of teeth, different number of heat pits, one doesnt hide but is carmouflaged and hangs around in trees and only hatchlings live on the ground, the other hides and always lives on the ground.

    its both pythons and the number of chromosomes is the same (so, theoretically, F2 hybrids or crossing back could be possible). but apart from that, the species are wildly different, even in captivity they need different enclosures.
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    While anything is possible, especially since sho has pointed out. I wouldn't do it personally. Many things could go wrong.

    Also while GTP are arboreal they do come down at night and cruise around. I've seen this myself.
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    Wow that ball x carpet hybrid looks cool

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    Re: My gf has a question

    Quote Originally Posted by Neal View Post
    Also while GTP are arboreal they do come down at night and cruise around. I've seen this myself.
    true, i havent been specific enough. its about where they sleep or what they do when in standby mode. and for that GTPs will go up and hide between green leaves on a branch somewhere, and BPs go down into a rhodent burrow or something.

    i really wonder how a hybrid will figure out what its supposed to do. sounds like there may be some seriously conflicting behavioral impulses.

    im not really against hybrids, but you should at least pick species that have a comparable lifestyle.
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