Getting another snake

[kingkung]

So I recently just got a baby ball phython. She is a normal. I told myself that I would get any more due to the fact that I don't have the space. But I was able to put my Leonard geckos together in my exo terra large low which freed up a20 gallon long tank, in thinking about getting either a morph of python out a king snake. If I do get a king snake, I am looking at the spiders or pin stripes. What do those usually run cost wise?

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[Naom9Anne]

You, my friend, have the bug. Welcome

[killswitch]

I am assuming when you say spiders or pinstripes you are talking about ball pythons.
Spiders you can get for under 100 bucks, pinstripes for around 100.
I suggest if its your first spider do some research on the spider "Wobble" in my opinion spiders are a little more of a wild card when dealing with them with the head tilt and striking.
I have a male bumblebee who is a real cool snake however from time to time when I enter his enclosure he will strike up towards the air where im standing about 3 times then be fine. I can then pick him up and do what I need to do in his enclosure.
Just something to be aware of before you make the commitment! (not all will be this way, you could get better ones or worse ones) Just something to know before you decide!

[Physician&Snakes]

Based on what I have heard, the "wobble" is seen mostly in pure spiders so if that is something concerning you then you might look into a combo...like spinner, bumble bee, lesser bee, etc... . On another note, a breeder I am purchasing a group from said that he acquired a spider years ago that was the only in one in the clutch to have a wobble, he held that individual back thinking he would die rather early; however, the animal ended up living over 10 years and siring quite a few clutches...so it might not be the end of the world if you accidentally buy a "wobbler". Other species to consider are of course bloods and carpets as their care is similar to Python regius ​.

[Naom9Anne]

Go for a morph you like. Choosing a particular morph comes more into focus when breeding and pairing one more to another to create the required babies. I have a spider and a spider combo and both fed like champs but you should research into the wobble as it can lay dominant in youth and come out when they are older, however, some spiders don't ever show the wobble or such a little one you would barely notice.

Have a browse on WOBP at different morph's and try to see some in person as pictures rarely do them justice. If this is more for a pet you can pick one which particularly appeals to you Are you liking the darker morphs or he lighter ones?


In regard to king snakes I have no knowledge of this breed, their morphs or their husbandry I'm afraid so can't be of any help there.

[Phantomtip]

Both Pinstripe and Spider have their "coolness" factors. Spiders have very pretty patterns, and pins have nice coloring around their stripes. Yes some spiders wobble. Its thought to be either a glitch in their brains or an instability in their necks that is most commonly present when very excited or stressed (like during feeding time). Yes it can interfere with them eating. You will have to be patient with a spider when you feed so that it gets a good strike instead of a bad one. Good luck in which ever you choose. I'm looking at a couple het pieds for me lol. I would love if they were yellow belly het pieds lol.

[kingkung]

Based on what I have heard, the "wobble" is seen mostly in pure spiders so if that is something concerning you then you might look into a combo...like spinner, bumble bee, lesser bee, etc... . On another note, a breeder I am purchasing a group from said that he acquired a spider years ago that was the only in one in the clutch to have a wobble, he held that individual back thinking he would die rather early; however, the animal ended up living over 10 years and siring quite a few clutches...so it might not be the end of the world if you accidentally buy a "wobbler". Other species to consider are of course bloods and carpets as their care is similar to Python regius ​.

Do blood pythons get bigger than balls? I have a 20 long and an exo terra large low(36x18x12) terrarium that I can use. Would one of those tanks work for the life of the blood phython?

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[kingkung]

Go for a morph you like. Choosing a particular morph comes more into focus when breeding and pairing one more to another to create the required babies. I have a spider and a spider combo and both fed like champs but you should research into the wobble as it can lay dominant in youth and come out when they are older, however, some spiders don't ever show the wobble or such a little one you would barely notice.

Have a browse on WOBP at different morph's and try to see some in person as pictures rarely do them justice. If this is more for a pet you can pick one which particularly appeals to you Are you liking the darker morphs or he lighter ones?


In regard to king snakes I have no knowledge of this breed, their morphs or their husbandry I'm afraid so can't be of any help there.

I'm looking more for a lighter morph.

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[Crazymonkee]

There are a lot of lighter morphs!! I have a spider who's wobble is barely noticeable so far... if you choose a spider go with a reputable breeder, if you can't visibly inspect it (as if buying online...) then make sure to ask if he has a wobble, a good breeder will be honest. Don't rule them out... they are beautiful, take your time and look around. I've seen male spiders for $75 lately. Pins around $100.

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[satomi325]

Nothing wrong with getting a spider. I personally prefer pinstripes more. How about a lesser?

I would advise against bloods. It sounds like you are new to snakes and a blood python isn't for beginners. They get large and are known to pack nasty attitudes.

Kings are easy snakes to keep. They can be a little more flighty as babies though. Ball pythons tend to be easier to handle. But I wouldn't count out kings. Their husbandry is relatively easier to maintain in general compared to balls because a lot of their temps and humidity tend to match the local climate since they're native snakes here in the US. And they come in really neat morphs that are inexpensive. Most less than $200.


Regarding the Wobble:
Every single snake that has the spider gene has the wobble. Combos includes. If it has the spider gene, it has a wobble.

They each vary in degree. One can be almost unnoticeable, another could be a cork crewing train wreck. It is genetic and neurological. Some wobbles can become less noticeable with time and other wobbles can get worse with time.

As long as it's not a severe case(which don't often survive past hatchling-hood), the majority of spider wobbles are no big deal. They can eat, poop, breed, do normal snake stuff as any other morph. Most thrive and live quality lives.



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