Why so obsessed?

[T&C Exotics]

Why is everyone so overly obsessed with co-doms and over flooding the market with them? I saw multiple adds just today for a pastel female for 50 and a spider female for 50 as well... I also saw normals being given away for free. This is beyond sad. Why do so many people feel the need to over produce animals that are already flooded and can not be sold? Seriously what is the point? I think people should seriously cut back on their production.

So let's hear what you have to say on this topic?

[m1n054]

I don't think they are doing it to saturate the market, they probably trying to get a nice morph but they had no luck, now are stuck with a bunch of mouths to feed and they are trying to get rid of them fast.

[Bugmom]

I think co-doms are common now because people keep trying for those 12.5% odds, and in the meantime, keep popping out "just" pastels and spiders and whatever other co-dom/dom morphs you can think of. Everyone likes to think they'll hit the odds on their first try. How convenient would that be, right? But odds don't work that way.

But... I think people have the right to produce whatever snakes they want to produce, and sell them for whatever they want to sell them for, or give them away if that's what they want. If they aren't in it for the money, or they have the time/money/patience to keep trying to hit the odds jackpot, why should they care if they price above or below what Joe Blow Breeder has them at? They don't owe anyone anything.

The exotic market fluctuates constantly. Prices will never remain the same from day to day regardless of whether you're selling tarantulas, snakes, lizards, or freaking beetles. It's like any market - once something becomes common and available to the "general public" vs "guy who is richer than you," the person banking on selling to the rich guy gets butthurt because oh noes! Normal people can afford to buy the same product he's selling because he no longer has something rare, and how ever will he stay rich?!

That said, I haven't seen any pastels for $50. I didn't pay $50 for mine.....
I got her for free

[Lobo_Reptiles]

10 years ago I remember wanting a Spider so badly. At the time they were in the $600 range. As a young lass of 15 that dream was way out of reach. This year I picked up a pair of a Spiders for $100. I can't tell you the joy I felt opening that bag to see them there in the flesh. I understand your disappointment, but I couldn't be happier that some of these morphs I only dreamed of owning are now affordable to me. My other 2 dreams are arriving in a few weeks, an Albino and a Mojave.


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[JoshR324]

I'm no breeder, but I'd guess it's simply because everyone is going for the 4-5 gene animals these days and anything less than a 3 gene is kind of a miss. A single gene is most definitely a miss and it costs just as much to keep them as a 4-5 gene so breeders want to dump them ASAP to avoid housing costs.


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[scooter11]

I think co-doms are common now because people keep trying for those 12.5% odds, and in the meantime, keep popping out "just" pastels and spiders and whatever other co-dom/dom morphs you can think of. Everyone likes to think they'll hit the odds on their first try. How convenient would that be, right? But odds don't work that way.

I'm no breeder, but I'd guess it's simply because everyone is going for the 4-5 gene animals these days and anything less than a 3 gene is kind of a miss. A single gene is most definitely a miss and it costs just as much to keep them as a 4-5 gene so breeders want to dump them ASAP to avoid housing costs.


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X2 for both of these. A lot of 2 gene animals are in a price range that people can afford so that bumps the price and usefulness of most single gene animals down along with it. If I can get a bumblebee for 250 why would I spend a 150 a piece on a pastel and spider then wait to grow them out and breed them. Now I'm in the hole for more than I would have spent on a bumblebee. Not to mention, I can only hope to produce bees in that pairing. It doesn't make those animals any less beautiful, but for a few extra bucks you can throw in another gene. Why not. Pastels still have their place, but if I can throw lesser or spider or fire to it......no brainer.



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[moghue]

Personally i think a person has a right to sell their snalke for whatever they feel like. I personally wouldnt spend more then maybe 200 or 300 for a snake and im not alone in that. I think the lower price will also attract more people into keeping BP's. I for one would never have gotten into keeping Ball python if all that was being sold was high priced snakes.

[Darkbird]

I almost have to laugh at the people getting all hurt and upset because they can't get a hundred bucks for that common single gene base morph, because so-and-so 3 tables down is selling the same thing for 50. High quality animals will continue to bring somewhat higher prices, but in a enough years you will see bananas and even ghi's going for 50. all morphs will eventually drop in price to the point where they command a price the same as or just a bit more than a normal. The more of anything there is, the less the demand for it.

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[Crazymonkee]

Can I ask why just about everyone breeds the same morphs???
I'm actually being quite serious in asking this question, as I have scrolled down the morph list and used the wizard and there are quite a few morphs that I rarely see being bred and sold....
Obviously if market is flooded with certain morphs and not that many of the others, the more common flooded morphs are going to drop in price.

Oh and I don't mean morphs like GHI or bamboo with the high price tag...
I'm talking chocolate, sable, etc

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[scooter11]

Markets get flooded based off demand. Anyone can produce a rare morph that someone does not find appealing, that doesn't mean it's going have a high demand and command a hefty price tag. Demand is created off what people find aesthetically pleasing in conjunction with what they can afford. When something is more affordable more people will be breeding it, especially when they like the looks. Those animals are more common more affordable and easier to sell.

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